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Doublet
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:36 am
by Thomas H
i have just got my patterns for my doublet and i was wondering what the various layers are made out of. i'm non sca and this is for 15th century. i was thinking wool but it might be too thick.
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:31 am
by Wolf
um no. wool is what it should be made out of. use wool as the outer part and linen as the inner part. will keep you complete dry in a rain storm.
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:46 pm
by Thomas H
thanks. shall i fill the inside with anything or just leave it wiht two layers.
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:27 pm
by Jeff J
Since we don't have any surviving examples, opinions vary. It's my opinion that the garment ought have two layers (double layer -i.e. doublet). I think there ought just be a wool outer layer and a linen liner.
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:39 pm
by Thomas H
ok now we have that sorted. what would they have died it with. i am looking for a bright red like this.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/hayman/SigismundTyrol.jpg that is the suit i am going for. i want it to be as accurate as possible.
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:42 pm
by S. Nobles
Beets make red, I think. It would take a very concentrated solution.
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:49 pm
by seyc
Beets wash out very quickly. You can't make it stay. I think they used lots of layers of linen to pad the dublet. Here is a good site for peroid dyes.
http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/irish/dyes.htmlscroll down
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:47 pm
by Edric
Ok, you are talking about an arming doublet, that is a completly different animal.
You probably want 3 or 4 layers of heavy linen quilted together about every 2 inches.
If you can't find the color you want, linen is easy to dye. I cannot say what you would use to make it red since I am not a dye expert. But remember the doublet under that armor is a reproduction, not an original.
It should look something like this:
http://www.edricsrose.com/unusedpics/doublets/dscn0311.jpgThe arms should fit tighter and there should be lacing points at the front like the ones on the sides to point your legs to.
The material should also be hand quilted instead of machine quilted.
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