I want to be Ermengol x or Don Alvero de Cabrera ( I know there is some confusion in who is who with the effigy)
I want to know what size of the plates are under his what i would presume is a coat of plates and weather people think it is hardened leather going around the forearm from the gauntlets.
How do people think the gorget connected at the back.
What style of great helm would he wear when not wearing a kettle hat. Would he have mail underneath the coat of plates or would it stand alone?
I am planning to do this for a jousting harness.
Link to flick photos of him
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/2156446368/
He is also seen in Medieval Military Costume, Recreated in Colour Photographs by Gerry Embleton.
Spanish Knight, Early14th C
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Re: Spanish Knight, Early14th C
I've been wanting to do a similar harness myself someday...
You probably already know this, but the Osprey book "El Cid and the Reconquista" has a nice artist's interpretation of the effigy's armour.
I feel like the bevor thing would probably go best with a kettle hat, as there are other depictions of warriors with similar such bevors with kettle hats... but the Osprey book has the knight with a cervellier or bascinet sort of thing with a nasal. Looks good either way.
As for the plates... hmmm... I don't know what would work.
You probably already know this, but the Osprey book "El Cid and the Reconquista" has a nice artist's interpretation of the effigy's armour.
I feel like the bevor thing would probably go best with a kettle hat, as there are other depictions of warriors with similar such bevors with kettle hats... but the Osprey book has the knight with a cervellier or bascinet sort of thing with a nasal. Looks good either way.
As for the plates... hmmm... I don't know what would work.
Re: Spanish Knight, Early14th C
http://www.metmuseum.org/pubs/bulletins ... nnered.pdf
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... e_cabrera/
The 1299 dating is the obit date. Grancsay's article provides plenty of analysis and comparison, suggesting c. 1314, while 1330 doesn't seem unreasonable.
From c.1329, St. Vilardell and the Dragon (Griffin)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilami/2218959294/
Galfrid's effigy database for Spain, 1300-1350.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... &view=list
For similar gorgets:
Compare the effigy of Rodrigo de Rebolledo, c.1350.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... 66/medium/
Ramon Folch, Viscount Cardona, c.1322.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... 28/medium/
Thibaut de Pomollain, c.1330, France.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... /original/
Laurence Hastings, Earl Pembroke, English c.1347.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... 204/large/
Galfrid's manuscript database for Spain, 1300-1350.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/search/ ... ew=gallery
La Gran Conquista de Ultramar, early 14th c., BNE MS 195, Madrid.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jhOAxJbaez8/T ... l%2529.jpg
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... e_cabrera/
The 1299 dating is the obit date. Grancsay's article provides plenty of analysis and comparison, suggesting c. 1314, while 1330 doesn't seem unreasonable.
From c.1329, St. Vilardell and the Dragon (Griffin)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilami/2218959294/
Galfrid's effigy database for Spain, 1300-1350.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... &view=list
For similar gorgets:
Compare the effigy of Rodrigo de Rebolledo, c.1350.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... 66/medium/
Ramon Folch, Viscount Cardona, c.1322.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... 28/medium/
Thibaut de Pomollain, c.1330, France.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... /original/
Laurence Hastings, Earl Pembroke, English c.1347.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... 204/large/
Galfrid's manuscript database for Spain, 1300-1350.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/search/ ... ew=gallery
La Gran Conquista de Ultramar, early 14th c., BNE MS 195, Madrid.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jhOAxJbaez8/T ... l%2529.jpg
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Considering the varying shapes on the "rivet heads" over the torso, I wonder if this isn't representative of some ornate fabric, considering the saya of Fernando de la Cerda. The fact that the pattern isn't repeated on the draped skirting might have been a stone-carving issue, and I wonder why there would be riveted platesMPF wrote:I want to know what size of the plates are under his what i would presume is a coat of plates...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/2156446368/
in the sleeve?
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