I wanna be a VIKING

hivemind · Post by **hivemind** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:03 pm

Those ain't what I got sent, and I just got mine last month.

Front:

Back:

Sides:

Do I need to contact them? Did they leave off a pad?

Sergeant Marli · Post by **Sergeant Marli** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:38 pm

hivemind wrote:Those ain't what I got sent, and I just got mine last month.

Do I need to contact them? Did they leave off a pad?

Damn, I would contact them and see what's going on. I would be pissed....

Sir Wilhelm · Post by **Sir Wilhelm** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:02 am

You might have ordered the wrong ones. I have what was posted the 1st time. You have to specify the medieval combat ones.

hivemind · Post by **hivemind** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:45 am

I definitely ordered the Max Coverage shorts and shirt. I got the correct shirt. I'll email them.

dcones485 · Post by **dcones485** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:39 pm

Hive, let us know what comes of it. I'm looking at the zoombang pads with a gambeson and mail over top for my vendel kit

Sergeant Marli · Post by **Sergeant Marli** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:41 am

hivemind wrote:I'll email them.

Update?

hivemind · Post by **hivemind** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:30 pm

Started a new job and haven't gotten around to a damned thing. I'll do it now.

hivemind · Post by **hivemind** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:37 pm

Just sent them this:

Hi,

I recently became aware that the Max Coverage shorts I received from you in December are significantly different from the ones shown on your site. These pictures here:

http://www.zoombang.com/imagenes/64_1.jpg

http://www.zoombang.com/imagenes/64_2.jpg

show significantly more padding in the hip area than mine do:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4UAK ... C02447.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cd2u ... C02448.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HuzP ... C02449.JPG

I've been wearing them now for a month to SCA heavy combat practices, the sport they were expressly designed for, and the ones I received are simply inadequate. Judging by the contusions on my left hip, unless something can be done to rectify this, I'm going to either have to wear additional armor over these, or do away with them entirely in favor of a rigid solution.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

[contact info]

hivemind · Post by **hivemind** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:38 pm

Response:

Hi David
You are correct we eliminated 4 pads and unfortunately did not up date the web.
I am unable to see your photos but I’m pretty sure that’s what it is.

We did this for 2 reasons:
1 the band was tearing when they were pulling up the shorts.
2 with that many pads the shorts did not have any more elasticity so some people had trouble
with the shorts staying up.
The feed back we received was those 4 pads were not necessary.

If you would like me to put them on please let me know and we will be happy to do so.

If that is not the problem again let me know.

I would be happy to discuss this matter with you, just give me a call on my cell.
Thank You
Tom

Thomas Kohut
Manager
New Product Development

Mine:

Tom,

Thanks for the reply.

I definitely would like those pads. There is a pretty big coverage gap on my hips, and it's getting painful. You'd think that eventually I'd learn to drop my shield faster, but sadly...

I'd be happy to mail you back the shorts, and draw on them with a tailor's pencil where I need the pads.

Thanks for working with me.

David Haldenwang

Thorfinnr · Post by **Thorfinnr** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:42 am

Hey David,

I was just wondering, in some of the hockey-style shorts I have looked at, and the Fogdog I use now, have a built in cupholder. I did not see any reference to that on the Zoombang site, do the shorts have that built in or no?

Thanks for the info.

Sir Wilhelm · Post by **Sir Wilhelm** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:39 pm

Thorfinnr wrote:Hey David,

I was just wondering, in some of the hockey-style shorts I have looked at, and the Fogdog I use now, have a built in cupholder. I did not see any reference to that on the Zoombang site, do the shorts have that built in or no?

Thanks for the info.

Yes they do.

Thorfinnr · Post by **Thorfinnr** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:15 pm

Sir Wilhelm wrote:
Yes they do.

Thank you good Sir!

hivemind · Post by **hivemind** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:56 pm

Mine do too.

Thothrekr · Post by **Thothrekr** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:14 am

Soft Kit question

My Lady is doing Viking for Birka and she's researching accessories. She already has the brooches and some accompanying beads, and an amber thor's hammer. What are other accessories would be a good idea for the well to do Viking Lady?

Diglach Mac Cein · Post by **Diglach Mac Cein** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:46 am

Needle case, scissors, metal mirror (on cords/chains). Knife. Bracelets, rings. Pins/sticks for hair (if long enough).

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Josh Wilson · Post by **Josh Wilson** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:37 pm

Neat little article on pre-Christian viking women's clothing

http://www.medievalists.net/2011/06/26/ ... ian-finds/

iaenmor · Post by **iaenmor** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:08 pm

Add tweezers, a comb, possibly a small knife.

Halbrust · Post by **Halbrust** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:31 pm

Keys. It seems like many of the women forget that they were the keeper of the keys.

marcus the pale · Post by **marcus the pale** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:24 pm

Halbrust wrote:Keys. It seems like many of the women forget that they were the keeper of the keys.

This.

I plan to commission a nice set for my lady for our next wedding anniversary.

Marcus

henry · Post by **henry** » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:46 am

I want to be an Icelandic Viking around 925-935. I'm a totally newbie to the SCA, and to being a Viking. So far I have a ocular helm and so I'm thinking that my next big investment should be in a mail shirt. Is there anything that marks a mail shirt as being particularly Viking? Or anything I should watch out for when buying one?

Edit: Okay, I have now done more research, and I think that a proper Viking mail shirt would be a flat, riveted mail haubrek that was short sleeved, and goes a third of the way down the thigh. This sound right?

Then I looked at the price difference... so, new question: would it be better to to buy a butted stainless steel mail hauberk now, and have a mail shirt, or to go mail-less for two/three years until I scrape up the cash for the most right mail, opinions?

YMHoward · Post by **YMHoward** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:29 am

henry wrote:I want to be an Icelandic Viking around 925-935. I'm a totally newbie to the SCA, and to being a Viking. So far I have a ocular helm and so I'm thinking that my next big investment should be in a mail shirt. Is there anything that marks a mail shirt as being particularly Viking? Or anything I should watch out for when buying one?

Edit: Okay, I have now done more research, and I think that a proper Viking mail shirt would be a flat, riveted mail haubrek that was short sleeved, and goes a third of the way down the thigh. This sound right?

Then I looked at the price difference... so, new question: would it be better to to buy a butted stainless steel mail hauberk now, and have a mail shirt, or to go mail-less for two/three years until I scrape up the cash for the most right mail, opinions?

Hi,

I can't tell you about what is correct or historical, but I can tell you that if I were starting again I would save up and get the best, rather than get "something for now" - I fell into that trap (twice! you would think I would learn), and it's only now (4 years later) that I am even beginning to escape it. Doublecheck before and be careful on your order - like I have been told many times "measure twice, cut once".

Cheers,
YMHoward

Edited for grammar

Swete · Post by **Swete** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:03 am

henry wrote:I want to be an Icelandic Viking around 925-935. I'm a totally newbie to the SCA, and to being a Viking. So far I have a ocular helm and so I'm thinking that my next big investment should be in a mail shirt. Is there anything that marks a mail shirt as being particularly Viking? Or anything I should watch out for when buying one?

Edit: Okay, I have now done more research, and I think that a proper Viking mail shirt would be a flat, riveted mail haubrek that was short sleeved, and goes a third of the way down the thigh. This sound right?

Then I looked at the price difference... so, new question: would it be better to to buy a butted stainless steel mail hauberk now, and have a mail shirt, or to go mail-less for two/three years until I scrape up the cash for the most right mail, opinions?

Round riveted maille would be more accurate for the date and place, but flat is weighs less and is therefore easier on your body. I have a small/medium round ring shirt and it is a Byrnie (think almost t-shirt sized) and it weighs 20-25lbs. A flat ring of the same size would be 10-15. DO NOT get butted. It is a terrible investment. If you cannot afford riveted or welded, just don't wear maille till you can buy better. You will be perfectly accurate not wearing maille. Just make sure you are rocking a good tunic and other assorted soft kit.

Dan Howard · Post by **Dan Howard** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:03 am

A soft kit is definitely the thing to buy first. Even if you get mail later you'll still have plenty of uses for the clothing.

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:04 am

Here is a really good thread on Vikings on My Armoury

http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=24474

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:53 pm

I agree on the soft kit first.
Here is a pic of my weapons.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/h ... ndHelm.JPG

And a close up of my helm:
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/h ... gStuff.jpg

Lucian Ro · Post by **Lucian Ro** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:13 pm

I was looking for good, basic examples of trim for viking garb. Can anyone point me to some?
I realize "viking" is a broad term, but something in the ballpark is fine.

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:06 am

Lucian read these:

http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/mensgarb.html

http://www.vikingsonline.org.uk/resourc ... ticity.htm

http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=24474

Basics IMO for a western kit are these:

Shirt: White linen. Basic square with rectangular arms and any keyhole or circular neck opening of the era.

Tunic: Most likely wool, fine wool for a wealthy impression. Side gores only or 4 gores both appropriate. The better off finds are often red from madder or blue from woad, yellow also common. Silk edging or tablet woven trim appropriate.

Legs: Trousers or hose. White linen trousers are suggested in the Sagas and some Anglo Saxon finds had while linen on the legs. Hosen of wool may also be appropriate; they are seen in 10th century art for sure and are common in Germanic horse riding culture in the late Roman era on. May also be worn with a form of leg wraps which there are many hook finds for through the many eras.

Shoes: They vary by century and area. There is a decent guide on the Vikings site but there are hundreds of finds out there.

Belt furniture: The best for the money to me is Guakler's Zoomorphic belt ends. They are fairly common for a wide range of places and time. I have seen them in many different finds in different countries starting in the 9th century.

http://medievalwares.com/index.php?main ... ts_id=1232

http://medievalwares.com/index.php?main ... ts_id=1249

Lucian Ro · Post by **Lucian Ro** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:08 am

Excellent, thanks as always, James.

Collin · Post by **Collin** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:41 pm

Hey guys- I didn't want to bring back an old thread and it's relevant, so I figured I'd ask here-- does anybody know what type of plaid the plaid that has been found in Viking sites (a number of sources are found in viewtopic.php?f=16&t=136611&hilit=viking+plaid) is? That is to ask, do we happen to know if it's plaid as we know it today, sometimes having varying widths in the different lines of different colours, or maybe simply blocks separated by thin lines? The idea of Vikings using plaid is just fascinating to me, and I'd love to know more about it but don't want to start a new thread or resurrect an old one.

Ottar · Post by **Ottar** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:13 am

Here's the plaid blanket wrapped around the body found at Skoldenhamn. It's origins are debatable... from northern Norway, it could be Sammi and not Norse. And the date was originally pegged to 13th century, but the carbon dating in 2009 puts it at 1050 AD or so. But it's plaid, and could be viking.

: blanket wrapped around the Skoldenhamn find; Skjoldehamn plaid.jpg (97.6 KiB) Viewed 19434 times

SigRandr Vadrefjord · Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:37 am

Im new to the SCA and want to know what kind of armour im looking for to stay period to viking. I know Helms can be Conical, Spangen, and Vendel. I am getting Lamellar body but unsure on everything else.

AedanMac · Post by **AedanMac** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:30 am

Gimli Bjornson wrote:Im new to the SCA and want to know what kind of armour im looking for to stay period to viking. I know Helms can be Conical, Spangen, and Vendel. I am getting Lamellar body but unsure on everything else.

If you haven't already check out this thread... viewtopic.php?f=4&t=89155

It is long but there is some decent info and suggestions to be found.

Vigulfr · Post by **Vigulfr** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:23 pm

So, I know this is the wrong geographical nation, but would a 10th century Scot be remarkably similar to a 10th century viking? It seems that the Vikings raided modern Scotland on multiple occasions, all the way up until about 1100 AD. I was curious if it would be logical to assume that maille was rather common during battle and that a "Poor" farmer would have a reasonable chance at procuring some off of the dead?

Bastior · Post by **Bastior** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:44 am

I think it very much depends on where in Scotland. If you want norse influence look for places where they settled, Orkney for example. Remember it was well after the viking era before the Scots King's writ ran throughout the whole Kingdom.

Personally I wouldn't bet on something pricey like mail being left lying around for poor farmers to 'aquire'. Mail was still the armour to have so it wouldn't just be thrown away. Having mail would be an indicator of status so I wouldn't try and combine poor with armoured.

B

Vigulfr · Post by **Vigulfr** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:39 pm

I was thinking that it would have been acquired immediately following a battle of some sort. Like the guy who had it died and I picked it up off his dead corps shortly thereafter.

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