XPost - ... a late 14th C English gentleman of arms (Esq)

Post by JT » Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:03 pm

I'm not going to arbitrarily move it in here, but....

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=27632

Mike F · Post by **Mike F** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:58 pm

For French, put them under some mud, but that's only accurate for 1415.

Seriously, I'm rather interested in French information myself.

Back on track, here's the English.

Might I first suggest checking out http://www.gothiceye.com under the "knights" section to see the funerary effigies of English knights of approximately that period.

The Battle of Agincourt occured early in the 15th century, but it could also be considered for very late 14th century.

There are a large number of harnesses in Churburg that are from that period as well.

I know most of this has been covered, but I figured it would be easiest to bring them up to the front.

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:01 am

Jehean basically already covered eveything you need.

For a newbie for a nice decent looking not overly expensive kit

I'd get

a nice simple klapvisor bascinet or a Hume

Good solid bell cuffed gunatlets

a COP kit from Gaa or a simple globose.

Ullieg's 14th century series but with metal joints

A gambeson from Revival (pending Gwens's new one)

Some low boots

A Pre packaged "Coathardie outfit" from HE

Make a heater

Get a Bell wedge tent from Panther.

Pretty much start there. Buy it over about a year and your gold.

Guy Dawkins · Post by **Guy Dawkins** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:18 am

And a Mandrake cast pommel and cross hilt.

Mike England · Post by **Mike England** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:45 pm

As a horse owner I would not advise a reenactor to purchase a horse for the sole purpose of reenacting. A horse is not an adornment to be put away and stored until the next event.

Just because a person has a horse does not mean they spend the entirety of their life with said animal. We are not talking about mongols, spending their entire lives in the saddle. We are talking about people who attended court, ate, slept and participated most other activities often even combat and tournement on their own two feet.

You are not expecting someone to bring livestock. :twisted:

However I would think that you should have ample evidence of horse ownership in your encampment. Saddles, tack, blankets, brushes pitchforks, shovels and such should be around. I would assume your armor and weapons fro ground combat would be designed for use while mounted as well. Knowing how to ride and care for horses can certainly add to your presentation even without the horse.

Aside from that, how many reenactment events will actually let you bring a horse? :sad:

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:31 am

Partly to answer Aedhan's question in the 14th Century Scot thread, and to put the list in here where it belongs, I am posting it here:

I have been "playing medieval" for about fifteen years now, starting prosaically enough with live action role-playing games in Colorado in the mid eighties as a teenager. Then I participated in the SCA from about 1990 to present. I have always been interested in improving the quality of the portrayal that I present, and have reached a point in my life where I am interested in joining the growing wave of "frontierspeople" carving out a niche in the re-enactment community by doing high-fidelity pre-settlement living history. I will in the end have one foot on each horse, as our Kass does, one foot in living history, and one foot in the SCA, and wish to make it clear that I understand that each horse is different, for different reasons, and each valid in their own way.

That said, I have decided that I wish to portray an English late 14th century gentleman of arms of the rank of esquire. I and my lady may, if fate is kind, form the core of a group of re-enactors or interpreters portraying a household troop typical of those seen in the Hundred Years' War, esquires, men at arms, and archers, with their camp followers.

I have approached this from the standpoint of material culture, and submit my findings to the advisement of my peers in re-enactment, so that I can obtain the best return for my treasure, and achieve the best results possible. I wish as much as possible to avoid spending money on items of low quality, or items that are inappropriate for the portrayal I have described. Please help me by attesting to the choices I have made, or by suggesting alternatives, or by suggesting alternatives even if the choices I have tentatively found are good. The cost of the items listed is in excess of $11,000USD, so in any case, I have discovered some measure of the price of authenticity. I thank you for any assistance or guidance you may provide. You will see that some of the items I have already obtained, which I believe I can carry forward into this project.

Without further ado, the list:

Jehan de Pelham, esquire

Portrayal: English Gen d'Arms of the esquire rank, dating to 1385 specifically but 1380-1390 generally.

Material Culture:

EDITS:

1. March 3, 2004 to include suggestions and additional items.
2. March 7, 2004 to include mattresses and bedclothes, and also coinage and a chess set.
3. March 14, 2004 to include orders of items, and to add feather-bed cost.
4. March 23, 2004 to include additional orders of items.
5. April 7, 2004 to reflect new orders and items en-route.
6. April 15, 2004 to reflect receipt of vambraces.
7. July 17, 2004 to reflect that John Gruber is making a pair of hourglass gauntlets for me.
8. August 1, 2004 to reflect receipt of cuisses and greaves--also, everything obtained is bold.
9. August 4, 2004 to reflect new orders.
10. August 7, 2004 to add bocksten tunics Lorelei has decided to make.
11. September 2, 2004 to reflect received hourglass gauntlets, completed bocksten tunics.
12. March 14, 2005 to reflect obtaining awning.
13. July 13, 2005 to reflect obtaining spurs.
14. July 25, 2005 to reflect putting plaque belt on order and to repost it in the "I Want To Be A..." Forum.
15. September 12, 2005 to reflect wife making two more undershirts, purchase of H.E. knives and Acorn spoons, purchase and delivery of a kidney pouch by Bohemond, and manufacture of a chest and bench.
16. September 21, 2005 to reflect purchase of feather bed.
17. September 22, 2005 to reflect building a 19" x 26" table.
18. September 27, 2005 to reflect making a backgammon set, a second bench, purchasing a chess set, and ordering coins from Grunal Moneta.
19. October 13, 2005, to reflect receipt of items.
20. August 24, 2006, to reflect several projects in the works, and various changes reflecting changes in prices and availability of goods.
21. September 17, 2006 to reflect the purchase of a Charles de Blois cote replica from Historic Enterprises.
22. October 12, 2006 to reflect gifts given by fellow members of Compagniye du Chalis.
23. November 27, 2006 to reflect acquisition of a Forth Armoury riveted hauberk, which I need to tailor down to haubergeon size. Also added in the Revival Leather shoes I have obtained over the years. I changed my chess set to a more correct make.

1. Arms.
a. Sword and Accessories
i. Arms and Armor Henry V Sword. Obtained, $498.
ii. Scabbard. Obtained, $85.
iii. Sword Belt and Hanger. Made by Raimond of Compagniye du Chalis from Peter Johnsson's publicly published pattern. Obtained. $Priceless.
b. Sword of War
i. Next Generation Albion Mark "Baron." $800.
ii. Scabbard.
c. Poll Axe
i. Raymond and Shannon-made Poll Axe. Made, materials cost $30, worth appox. $250.
d. Mace
i. Arms and Armor Iberian Mace. $138. (an old family treasure, I'll need to bury this in the yard for a couple of weeks)
e. Dagger
i. Arms and Armor Classic Medieval Dagger. $176.
ii. Scabbard. $15.

2. Armor. (All Historic Enterprises Armor is in Spring Steel)
a. Helmet.
i. Anshelm Arms Mild Steel High Top Bascinet. Obtained, $425.
ii. Anshelm Arms Mild Steel Round Nose Klappvisor. Obtained, $250.
iii. Forth Armory Riveted Camail. $200. Obtained.
b. Spaulders.
i. Historic Enterprises Spauldlers, Circa 1380. Obtained, $250.
c. Breastplate.
i. Historic Enterprises Breastplate, Italian Circa 1360-1415. $600. Obtained.
d. Gorget.
i. GAA Armories Gorget. $45.
e. Haubergeon.
i. Forth Armoury Riveted Haubergeon. $800. Obtained.
f. Vambraces.
i. Historic Enterprises Vambraces, Italian Circa 1380, custom fans. Obtained, $680.
g. Cuisses and Greaves.
i. Historic Enterprises Cuisses w/ Custom Fitted Greaves 1390. Obtained, $2230.
h. Sabaton. Cet of Vulcan's Forge. Working. $Trade.
i. Gauntlets.
i. John Gruber Hourglass Gauntlets, Spring Steel and Brass. Obtained, $600. (But he now knows what to charge for them so expect $750-$800)

3. Clothing.
a. Underwear
i. 13-14th Century Century Braies, 3 Pair. $30. Made by my wife.
ii. Revival Clothing 14th Century Shirt, 3. $135. 1 Obtained from Revival Clothing, two made.
b. Outerwear
i. Historic Enterprises Herjolfsnes G63 Gown, Wool. Obtained, $200.
ii. Historic Enterprises Chausses, Wool, 2 Pair. $80. Obtained.
iii Historic Enterprises Chausses, Linen, 1 Pair. Obtained, $30.
iv. Revival Clothing Chausses, Linen, 1 Pair. Obtained, $43.
v. Historic Enterprises Split Hose, 2 Pair. $195.90.
vi. Historic Enterprises Charles de Blois Cote, Red and Gold Brocade. $350. Obtained.
vii. Bocksten Tunics, Linen (red, mustard, and green-grey)--made by my wife. Obtained, $30
c. Head Coverings
i. Wool Hood with Budge Trim, made by Tasha McGann--in process. $200.
ii. Revival Clothing Linen Hood w/ Liripipe, Blue. Obtained, $37.
iii. Revival Clothing Linen Coif. $15.
iv. Historic Enterprises Early Medieval Coif. $12.
d. Footwear
i. Historic Enterprises Buckled Ankle Boots. $115.95.
ii. Historic Enterprises Poulaines. $150.
iii. Pattens.
iv. Revival Clothing Imitation Turnshoes. 3 pair--2 brown, 1 red. $150. Obtained.

4. Clothing Accessories
a. Belts
i. Ingraham-made simple belt with forged iron buckle. Priceless, Obtained.
b. Pouches
i. Bohemond Kidney Pouch. $45. Obtained.
c. Badges
i. Koln Dom Shrine of the Three Magi Pilgrim's Badge. $15 and a deployment to Iraq. Obtained.
d. Jewelry
i. 14th Century Spurs, Brass, Talbot's Fine Accessories. Obtained, $100
ii. Plaque Belt, Brass, Gold Plated Plaques with Silver-Plated Studs, Global Effects (Sir Gaston's business), $525, Obtained.
e. Garters
i. Fettered Peacock Garters, Pewter Buckled. Obtained, $18.

5. Housing
a. Tent
i. Tentsmiths 13' x 19' Round End Marquee. Obtained, $1500.
ii. Tentsmiths Midi Round. Obtained, $600.
b. Awning
i. Tentsmiths 15' Awning (12' Tent Version). $250. Obtained.
c. Shelter for Archer and Man at Arms.
i. Tentsmiths 9' Awning (12' Tent Version). $170.

6. Furniture
a. Chests and Boxes
i. Six Board Chests, 18"Â

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:09 pm

Currently trying to work with the fellow at Grunal Moneta to obtain a large quantity of replica coins, about 5-6 Pounds of them. So far no reply.

Banged out a couple of furniture items, a chest and a bench. Feel pretty good about it.

Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:33 pm

Got a lot of pending work out there right now. Breastplate from H.E., plaque belt from Global Effects, coins from Grunal Moneta (if he answers his email!), and cauldrons and pans and chafing dishes from Historic Castings.

Looking for all these things to come in before the winter comes on.

Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus

Magmaforge · Post by **Magmaforge** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:41 pm

Jehan, can you post a link to this Global Effects you purchased your belt from?

Fantastic work by the way, it is an inspiration.

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:11 pm

The link is here:

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... elt#590181

I don't know if he still offers them, but give it a try.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:21 pm

I never did end up getting that stuff from Historic Castings, but I got a beautiful cote from Historic Enterprises.

I need to revamp this list and re-visit sometime soon. I have a new idea for the portrayal which will be interesting.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org
Proprietor, The Compagniye Store

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:52 pm

ohhhh

OK lemme hear!!!

I need new ideas!!

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:21 am

It will be after I get back from Iraq. I have to do some research.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:24 am

Apparently at this year's Age of Chivalry there was a bit of a largesse frenzy and I am richer to the tune of an oak chest, some crockery, and some assorted dining and kitchen implements. More to follow.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:59 am

Added a Forth Armoury hauberk, which will be tailored to a haubergeon--I should have sufficient left over for a camail.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

Graham Ashford · Post by **Graham Ashford** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:42 am

Hello all

I am very new to this period, having done 1st century gladiatorial for what seems an eternity, we are now turning our attention to the mid 14th century.

I was wondering whether anyone would be willing to comment on the following purchases, having been directed at this thread I believe I am on the right tracks, but would appreciate any comments people would have about specific pieces? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Front laced boot http://sales.ana.users.btopenworld.com/lateME.htm LHB
Undershirt http://www.medievaldesign.com/camiciebraeng.html B
Braies http://www.matuls.pl/english/underwear.html 13th or 14th
Coif http://www.matuls.pl/english/headwear.html
Woolen coif http://www.matuls.pl/english/headwear.html
Seperated Hose http://www.matuls.pl/english/outwears.html Seperated hose
Pig Faced Bascinet http://www.matuls.pl/english/armours.html Helmet 1
Knee copp http://www.merctailor.com/catalog/produ ... 1e7103dd8f
elbow cops http://www.merctailor.com/catalog/produ ... ucts_id=94

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:40 am

Just saw your post. I'll try and look through the purchases. Can I ask, though: Are these to be purchased for a single portrayal, I mean, do you intend to use these items all together in one portrayal?

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

Graham Ashford · Post by **Graham Ashford** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:59 am

I was planning on using them and supplementing the missing parts with sections I will make on the same person ... at least that is what I was planning

am I about to find out otherwise?

The plan was splinted greaves, fingered gauntlets, padded aketon, coat of plates ... maille eventually but that's a way off yet as I have yet to find the time or cheape enough supplier for the rivetted maille I am after. I was planning on attaching some to the bascinet.

Please correct me wherever this is going wrong, I am learning everyday and don't want to misfire on the first go.

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:19 pm

I think the helmet leans a bit far late in the 14th century, while the knees and elbows lean toward the early part of the 14th century. Other than that, I don't see anything glaring--keeping in mind that I am a dilettante at these matters and rely heavily on peer review myself.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:31 pm

Yeah what John said

the Pig face is probly saaaayyyy 1370's??

And the polyens and cotuers more like the 1330's

Using those as outside dates your at least 40 years apart there.

Probly further. Now for SCA or like group thats fine, but for LH thats kinda far.

It's like a Model A ford with a cassette player. It could happen, if someone happend to have an old Ford and retro fitted it but it's not common.

Graham Ashford · Post by **Graham Ashford** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:24 am

Excellent replies thanks Gents.

I am sorry to ask such newbie questions but I appreciate your time. So the choices are to either update the cops or backdate the helmet. Can you supply the name of a helmet from the middle of the 14th Century, I can update the cops without much effort but am still learning the helms from the periods in question.

One last question about splinted greaves, these continued past 1350 didn't they, just less and less?

Once again, thanks for the help.

RandallMoffett · Post by **RandallMoffett** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:30 pm

Graham,

I know of a large number of MS illustrations with bascinets from the 1st half of the 14th. If you find the Taymouth Hours Ills. They are great and have at least two types and lots of drawings of them. I cannot find my CD with them currently. I have made a few early bascinets. There are plenty of them of various styles. Go early so few people do!!!

You could do splinted and plate limbs, a cool COP, a early bascient, wisbyesque gauntlets and gambeson and your set.
RPM

Graham Ashford · Post by **Graham Ashford** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:58 am

I suspect that if I ask the group to do early rather than late I will be hung, drawn, quartered and feed to fish, cats and dogs

However, I woudl be half interested in taking that on. Still being new to the period, trying to learn all the time though, woudl I be right in thinking that by bascinet you mean a simple skull piece with perhaps a maille coif?

Sorry to ask such a newbie question, but newbies are as newbies be!

Thanks for the help

RandallMoffett · Post by **RandallMoffett** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:00 am

Graham,

Here are some early bascinet pictures to answer your question.

http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminated ... &NStart=13

Especially this knight in basically plate limbsand a very interesting bascient and gorget.

http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminated ... IllID=5896

I hope you go early but being so poorly treated I will not blame you if you do not,

RPM

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:40 pm

Graham,

There are some examples of armors "hearkening back" in English effigies surprisingly late.

Examples from Stothard's Monumental Effigies are:

1. Circa 1350: Sir Humphrey Littlebury, Holbach Chirch, Lincolnshire: Cuisses (upper legs) studded with cinquefoil rivets. Whether these cuisses are meant to represent leather studded through or whether these are appliques to steel is unknown. Stothard offers evidence from the memoirs of Phillip de Comines, book one, to the effect that these cuisses may well be something other than steel: "The Dukes of Berry and Bretagne were at their ease upon their hobbies, armed only with gilt nails sown upon sattin, that they might weigh the less."

2. Circa 1350: Sir Thomas Cawne, Ightham Church, Kent: One-peice knees, with what appears to be a leather or fabric scalloped flap protruding out from under the knee cop. The Cuisses and greaves appear to be steel. Highly developed finger gauntlets (brass or latten and gemstones). Ornate plaque belt--one of the best representations of its kind.

3. Monumental Effigy, Wingfield Church, Norfolk: One peice knees, with scalloped flap at the bottom. Other defenses very current for 1360 to 1390.

4. Circa 1390s: Sir Guy Brian, Abbey Church of Tewkesbury: Very different harness than the norm. Highly decorated brocaded or joined metal plaque torso covering, mail upper arms, single-peice elbow defenses with probably splinted vambraces (the splints are interior, looks to be pinhole lines for sewn pockets to hold them). Thin, simple plaque belt, a bit higher on the hips. The leg defenses appear to be mail chausses, over which are applied broad strips, maybe two inchses wide for the greaves, and up to three inches wide for the cuisses. Feet are protected by mail. I must admit confusion as to this harness, and would recommend further research to anyone looking to replicate it.

I have done some looking at late 14th century iconography, centering on western Europe, and the norm for late 14th century battle dress is full plate limb defenses with articulated knee and elbows, simple three lame spaulders, and a textile covering (tight and vest-like or loose and coat-like with sleeves) over a mail habergeon extending to mid thigh with half to three-quarter sleeves.

The shapes of the effigies strongly suggest breastplates terminating just below the ribcage, as the "wasp waists" are quite high to modern eyes).

The helmet is almost always a bascinet with draped aventail (also called camail or ventail)--whether fabric showing or mail showing, or some combination (fabric extending from under mail or mail extending from under fabric), although there is much evidence for the practice of wearing an orle (round doghnut-shaped pad) atop the bascinet and then wearing a great helmet over the bascinet (yes, two helmets!). The visor is almost almost always the beaked visor called a hounskull. The precise shapes vary from highly pointed versions to more round versions--convex versus concave profiles to the point.

The famous Hohenklingen effigy is one of the few examples of an externally showing breastplate, worn over a coat-like torso covering.

Stray from this at your discretion, and, I guess, your peril.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:01 pm

The bascient itself is fine for the 14th century.

The the pig face visor style is just from more or less the last third afaik. Maybe a klapvisor?

As for the back dated armour there is some evidence (at least to me) that many of these guys are shown in the gear of "thier day".

The Neville Effigy in Scotland for ex, he dies in the 15th century. 1420 ish???
(book is way over there) But his Effigy is still dressed like it's 1380. Bascinet with chanin aventail, fitted surcoat bell cuffed finger guants ect ect.

Bernhart von Bruck · Post by **Bernhart von Bruck** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:55 pm

Chello!

I value all of your opinions since I'm ~finally~ moving my persona to the 1300's. I'm assuming we're fairly late.

How does this set-up work?

Bascinet with klapp visor with camail
riveted maille haubergon (sp/term?)
C.O.P.
gorget (metal or studded?)
arms, splinted (Icefalcon's, qv http://icefalcon.safeshopper.com/6/24.htm?597)

upper legs, padded cuisses
knee cops (soupcan or something else)
metal greaves
sabatons (yay or nay?)

Note that this is for SCA, so I'm not overly concerned if my span is a tad wide. I just want to look good (ie, Murdock lookingat me and going, "Good attempt at a late 14th C for the SCA" type of comment.).

I save the nitpickiness for my late '43 WW2 Soviet frontovik impression!

Snaebjorn

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:06 pm

only thing i see as being a tad off is the gamboised cuiesses.

For the rest of it, seems a bit late to still be in gamboised cuiesses.

For SCA the mail and the cop may be over kill .

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:36 pm

I have not seen evidence to contadict the view that the klappvisor is a particularly German affair.

It is a weakness in my own kit which I must rectify. It freaked me out when the HE bascinet came up a whole back, because I need one and would like one from Jeff's hands from the standpoint of keeping the manufacturers down a bit.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

Bernhart von Bruck · Post by **Bernhart von Bruck** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:33 pm

Chello!

lol, well as to the klappvisor being distinctintly German, my registered name IS Scandinavian...;) I have been contemplating switching to a German persona just for this kit. Or I may just keep Snaebjorn and do the typical SCA thing and ignore the, shall I say, ANCHRONISM! :D

I was afraid the cuisses would be too early to go with the rest of the kit...I was just going to use my current knees and rework them.... ~sigh~ Now I'm forced to buy Icefalcon's legs as well....lol

Thanks for the advice guys!

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:16 am

Hey, I just wanted to post a photograph.

Obviously, I need a houndskull visor, and the hauberk needs shortening, but the rest is just about there, except for a textile torso covering of some sort.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.thecompaignyestore.com

Henry of Bexley · Post by **Henry of Bexley** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:30 am

Hey Jehan-

Your list is VERY comprehensive and inspiring- but I don't see anything about the arming garments you're using... maybe I missed it, but that'd be neat to see too.

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:38 pm

The arming garments I use are medieval clothes plus a bit of stitch-witchery from Gwen Nowrick, the innacurate but very handy arming vest that she offered through Mandrake a while back. The arming cote is something I made, really more from necessity than anything else.

Anyway, I have attached some photographs.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.thecompaignyestore.com

Henry of Bexley · Post by **Henry of Bexley** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:38 pm

Thanks!

This is really just curiosity for its own sake, but do you have plans to upgrade at all? I noticed a lot of your list is of things you plan to acquire- any plans in this direction?

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:10 pm

It's a matter of finding who makes these things, or making them myself. This can take a while.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.thecompaignyestore.com

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