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Help with a Polish kit

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:45 pm
by Swete
Hello all!
I am attempting to help my Lady get her first heavy kit together and I am having some trouble finding the info we need.
She is wanting to go Polish due to her ancestry, but neither of us can afford the later Hussar Anime styles or any other plate types.
I do have experience making hidden armour and I will try and get her some lamellar if it is appropriate for her persona.

So, the main problem is that I cannot figure out are what helms type are correct for this people?
I know it is a broad question, but any pics of Polish style helms other than those of Hussars would be most appriciated! :D
Once she picks a helm type that she likes, we can work on the rest of her kit to fit it.
Edit: She is going to go for a Hussar look. Yay! :D

-Swete

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:07 pm
by Cian of Storvik
From some illuminations of the 14th century, Polish armor didn't look much different then that typical of western Europe.

14th century manuscript of the battle of Legnica (c1240) from the Legend of St. Hedwig. The Polish appear to be wearing bascinets and greathelms.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Legnica.JPG[/img]

This might get more attention in the "I WANT TO BE" FORUM...assuming they let you post something general like "I want to be a Polish warrior".
-Cian

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:06 am
by Swete
Oops! :lol:
Yeah, I'll try the post in the correct forum section.
Thanks for the pic and info though! :D

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:58 pm
by Nieczar
Swete, wich period are You interested on ? ...and wich part of Poland in this period ?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:49 pm
by Hrolfr
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zaglobastavern/?yguid=182550148

Everything you need to know about Hussars :wink:

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:22 am
by Ernst
She can go Hussar period without plate. Be a pancerni!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:26 pm
by Swete
Ernst wrote:She can go Hussar period without plate. Be a pancerni!


Okay, so the Pancerni were the middle and lower class calvary combatants?
I talked to my Lady and she really wants to do Hussar/Panceri (she looked up some of the Anima armour pics).
I can't get her one of those spiffy breast plates right now, so would something like a buff-coat be realistic, with hidden armour underneath obviously or would a Polish style tunic be better?
I will be getting her some spaulders and a helm. I am going to have to make the rest hidden armour using HDPE plastic.

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:23 pm
by sha-ul
I have a few images in my photo hoard that might be of use
http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s294 ... l%20armour

http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s294 ... ent=hussar

http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s294 ... rent=anime
I haven't had time to tag& index all these photos, so you may benifit from paging through them

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:25 pm
by Hrolfr
Swete wrote:
Ernst wrote:She can go Hussar period without plate. Be a pancerni!


Okay, so the Pancerni were the middle and lower class calvary combatants?
I talked to my Lady and she really wants to do Hussar/Panceri (she looked up some of the Anima armour pics).
I can't get her one of those spiffy breast plates right now, so would something like a buff-coat be realistic, with hidden armour underneath obviously or would a Polish style tunic be better?
I will be getting her some spaulders and a helm. I am going to have to make the rest hidden armour using HDPE plastic.


Zagobla's tavern is hardcore Hussar re-enactors.

:wink:

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:18 pm
by Ernst
Pancerni armors in the Polish Army Museum:
(Hope she likes mail.)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _wieku.jpg

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:12 pm
by Swete
Ernst wrote:Pancerni armors in the Polish Army Museum:
(Hope she likes mail.)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _wieku.jpg

Ooo! Pretty!
If I could afford some more maille then I might try to talk her into it.
;p
However, she wants to attempt to make a Anime cuirass out of HDPE and cover it with velvet or something (I am fully behind her on this. I have plenty of HDPE lying around so it won't cost anything to try.)

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:14 am
by Greenshield
Nieczar has some great examples on his site. I have used some of his stuff for inspiration.

GreenShield

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:19 pm
by Gilebert
Here is a resource created by another fellow doing Polish medieval research..

http://www.plcommonwealth.org/zygmunt2.htm

(posted with permission)

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:57 pm
by bhaiduk
Osprey has two good books that cover the hussars. It's a nice resource to get inspired by.