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This thread really needs a 'like' button. Consider yourself liked, everyone.
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EnderPC wrote:So our kingdom decided to add a requirement for those of us wearing hidden zoombang requiring an additional leather protection of the kidneys. So I made this kidney belt. The two panels are patterned and inspired by two woodcuts from the 1500's. The left is St.George slaying the dragon and the right is David V Goliath. I was pretty happy with the way it cam out, but I wish I had a few more colors to add in.

I hope that's not covered up by clothing or armor!!!
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My latest scabbard reproduction
12th C early thong belt from the German Empire
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Wow. That scabbard and belt look like they leapt off the pages of the Manesse manuscript.
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a quick foray into Cast in place stones.

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took 4 1/2 hrs from start to finish (Block of undressed stone to 2 doz buttons)

the glory of pewtering in stone moulds is of course that now I can turn out a dozen more in about ten minutes.

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Oh, now that is cool! :D
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Robert,

Your bezels will cast more fully and consistently if you put a vent in the middle of the recess where you place the stone. You will have to partially plug the vent with a broom straw or bit of wire to keep metal from getting in there if things go wrong. Use a very slender bit and a small "Archimedes drill". Brush the dust out of the bit frequently.

So.... those stones appear chatoyant. Are they glass, or are you using something else?

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Mac,

<facepalm> Of course! Bloody obvious. As usual, a bit more thought and a bit less doing is whats needed.

I'll have a pop at that this weekend.

Thanks again.

the stones are just some wee glass stringing beads that were about when I started playing.
(Apart from the dark ones which are garnets, likewise lying about with a string hole.)

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Ah! They are beads, and I am seeing the holes and thinking it's chatoyance. OK, I get it now.

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Ckanite,

No. no metal in the string hole. Not enough encouragement for the metal to flow that way, for the the width of hole in question.
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Mac,

What kind of 'stone' would you use?
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We use flat-backed glass cabs like these. http://www.jfallen.com/wholesale/category/435421/ These modern ones are probably a bit more uniform in size (at least within colors and batches) than the medieval ones, but otherwise little has changed over the centuries.

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Bells! been meaning to have a go at one of these for ages.

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Robert of Canterbury wrote:Bells! been meaning to have a go at one of these for ages.

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Nice! Is that pewter or something else? How does it sound?
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The first run of these has been in Pure Tin, and while they do give a nice 'ding' they are nowhere near as clear sounding as I might wish for. Ideally I should be casting in 97-98% Tin, 2% copper and a trace of Antimony.
(See Justine Bailey's analysis in 'Pilgrim Souvenirs and Secular Badges'
Brian Spencer, Museum of London - latest Boydell reprint, ISBN 978 184383 544 8 )

I also need to do some research into the best shape of bell for a better sound.

The Clapper is a pewter headed steel shanked pin. (Cause I had some to hand) A small hole drilled in the top of the bell post casting, pin inserted, bent over at top, and it does the job. It should really be a separately cast purpose made clapper, fitted the same way. -Next job on the list.
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My two latest projects. New sheaths for my scramasaxes, and a pouch to carry my phone and glasses in:

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Asbrand, nice work!
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My latest suit - 1430's Italian - wool calze (parti-colored hose with chevron and stripe insets in the style of the Sienne Valdimontone Contrade), wool farsetto, brocade tabardo, linen under-clothes, and wool cap. I only had to hand work 42 eyelets as opposed to the 78 eyelets on the last suit. I did not make the shoes, the metal belt fittings, or the chain.

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Oooo, love that tabardo! That's a beautiful kit all together, but I'm especially covetous of the formal third layer. :D
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Christ Pantocrator panel painting in a 13th century Italio-Byzantine style.

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There's an artist from Winnipeg who has recently been making these gorgeous repousse plates as stiffeners for the front covers of medieval pouches. (specifically for Hungarian tarsoly.) I've very much admired the beautiful work he's been doing, and at the event this past weekend I was looking with dismay at the lackluster condition of my own belt pouch...
At the same time, I'd been thinking about ways to tastefully display award badges inside a period aesthetic -or at least without defaulting to a bazillion necklaces and looking like a boy scout.
So... :) It's not finished yet (obviously) but it's face down in pitch right now so this is the most recent picture of the front.

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That looks good. Are you going to paint/enamel the fret?
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My husband's work (Maestro Ryan Dollas of Gleann Abhann). The outfit is red and black although I know it looks more pink in this picture.

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Since the topic line says "Non-Laurels Only," does that mean bigjon (His Grace Jon the Tall, KSCA, OL) have to remove his work from the thread? He did get Laureled this past weekend.
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Paul the Small wrote:Since the topic line says "Non-Laurels Only," does that mean bigjon (His Grace Jon the Tall, KSCA, OL) have to remove his work from the thread? He did get Laureled this past weekend.
My preference would be to grandfather in and keep his pre-Laurel work here, and if he feels like sharing his post-Laurel work, to just put it over in the Laurel thread. :)

Seems like the easiest and least troublesome way.

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Hey guys! This is my first major project, and I am very excited with how it came together. As you can see, it is an a-historic piece, and is my interpretation of Brynden Blackfish from Game of Thrones.

I originally wanted to recreate the armor, but after inspecting and researching it for a few days, I came to the conclusion that the original armor was made from upholstery leather sewn onto a cloth backing. Which, for obvious reasons, wasn't going to work. I might be making this exclusively to cosplay, but I only want to make and wear armor that would be battle ready, and as historically plausible as I can make it, while still being true to the character at hand.

So this is a modified lamellar, where there is extra material extending from the bottom of each plate, covering the normally exposed lacing of the row below it. Personally, I think this offers better protection than historical examples of lamellar, as the likelihood of having the lacing cut, and your armor falling apart, is greatly diminished. Additionally, with traditional lamellar, any given area you might receive a thrust you have usually two layers of leather protecting you, and with this armor, that's bumped up to a guaranteed 3, unless they get under one of the scales. The obvious compromise is weight, and while I've never worn traditional lamellar, I will say that this armor is surprisingly light, and comfortable. The exception being the mantle, which was not designed for combat and couldn't be used effectively. I had to hold my breath to lift a mug to my mouth.

As far as construction, I used 9 ounce stiff belt leather scraps and a belt end punch to cut out all 850 leather plates. I punched 8 holes in each plate (the worst, most tedious part), dyed them using Vinegaroon, oiled each plate, then used beeswax to treat and seal each plate (second most tedious part), and finally laced them all together using cotton cord (not paracord, I wanted something more historically plausible).

The mantle was a bit of a beast. The vest was easy. All the plates the same size, same shape. Very easy to make and put together. The mantle required me to angle the plates in towards the top, causing them to make a sort of cone, but I had to design each row to fit the row beneath, and give enough room for the next row above. I spent more time on the mantle than the vest, by far.

I have no idea how much time I have logged into this armor, but it was about 2-5 hours per day, every day, for about 3 months.

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I made my everything! Double thickness viking wire weave necklace, linen tunic (entirely handsewn with handspun (http://i.imgur.com/ZXCP3OY.jpg), handwoven tablet woven trim and seam treatments done with handspun), belt with hand carved bone buckle and keeper, riveted on with solid brass rivets (http://i.imgur.com/x3cJz5a.jpg), pouch that needs metal or possibly to be redone, the strap isn't long enough and it always falls open, hand sewn pants, hand spun hand woven winnegas (http://i.imgur.com/YX43Q5H.jpg), naalbind socks and hand made shoes! Also in my belt on the far side is a naalbind hat.
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Post while you can. You won't be a Non-Laurel for long with work like that.
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My first naalbinding project! Man this thing is warm. Winter in Minnesota should be a bit easier to bear.

Next project: socks
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Forgot to add this project to this thread. Lantern chest I created (to carry my camp lanterns in), based sorta on the Viking chests out there, and also just some of my own imagination. I wanted to try some nifty things with my router. Worked out pretty well.

From design:

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...to completion:

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...here is my photo journal of the entire project, from start to finish:

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