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Posted: **Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:53 pm**

I know it is the clearest pic, but I just wanted to show my phrygian hat I finally got around to making. It is constructed of faux leather sadly. BTW, Is it normal to have a stitch running up the front?
[img]http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx277/oni_saken/renfest005.jpg[/img]

P.S. Meh lady is Hotness! :wink:

Posted: **Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:06 pm**

Swete wrote:Is it normal to have a stitch running up the front?

Realistically, most caps such as these were probably made from felt material that was spun into shape, like a nice modern hat, and would therefore have no seams. I made mine the same way you did yours, and I've been happy with it. It's probably not the most accurate way to make them, though.

-Gerhard

Posted: **Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:11 pm**

Oh wells. At least I have something on meh head now.

Posted: **Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:59 am**

I find in almost every era with hats you have both cut and sewn fabric versions and knit/woven and felted versions, both are technically possible in the era of the phrygian hat. I often make and sell a few at events that are cut out like Swete's leather version, I use wool.

Posted: **Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:58 am**

James B. wrote:I find in almost every era with hats you have both cut and sewn fabric versions and knit/woven and felted versions, both are technically possible in the era of the phrygian hat. I often make and sell a few at events that are cut out like Swete's leather version, I use wool.

Fine by me! Just makes mine more accurate than I'd previously expected. What's the giveaway in the art, James? Are there sometimes clearly shown stitch lines on the hats?

-Gerhard

Posted: **Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:17 pm**

There is no hard evidence either way for the phrygian hat. There is no extant example and the art is not good enough to tell. I am making a guess based on how you find both in other eras.

Posted: **Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:44 pm**

Swete wrote:I know it is the clearest pic, but I just wanted to show my phrygian hat I finally got around to making. It is constructed of faux leather sadly. BTW, Is it normal to have a stitch running up the front?
[img]http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx277/oni_saken/renfest005.jpg[/img]

P.S. Meh lady is Hotness!

Thats a "Swete" hat, good job!
Also, hows your knee doing?

Posted: **Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:04 pm**

bigjon wrote:
Thats a "Swete" hat, good job!
Also, hows your knee doing?

Thanks for the compliment, your Highness.

Yeah, the hat is like my face though: the closer one gets to it, the uglier it gets. :lol:

But the knee is doing better. I should be able to fight again, howbeit lightly, by the 23rd. Yay!

Thank you for asking!

Posted: **Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:58 am**

I should add there are several sewn hat finds from around that time period; they are mentioned in my Hastings document on page 14:

http://www.historiclife.com/pdf/BattleofHasting.pdf

The Birka grave find in Sweden is dated to the 10th century. It is a woolen round cap made of six panels.

Sogards Mose bog (Figure A in the drawing from Viking Clothing by Thor Ewing ) find in the Netherlands is dated to the 10th century. This woolen hat is made of two panels making a round cap with a small nipple shape at the top center.

The Bernuthsfeld Germany find (Figure B in the drawing from Viking Clothing by Thor Ewing at the bottom of the page) dated to the Viking era. It is a woolen hat that is a cone shape made out of two trapezoids with a near cone shape with a hexagon at the top of the hat

(image on page 14)

Posted: **Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:03 am**

James B. wrote:I should add there are several sewn hat finds from around that time period; they are mentioned in my Hastings document on page 14:

http://www.historiclife.com/pdf/BattleofHasting.pdf

The Birka grave find in Sweden is dated to the 10th century. It is a woolen round cap made of six panels.

Sogards Mose bog (Figure A in the drawing from Viking Clothing by Thor Ewing ) find in the Netherlands is dated to the 10th century. This woolen hat is made of two panels making a round cap with a small nipple shape at the top center.

The Bernuthsfeld Germany find (Figure B in the drawing from Viking Clothing by Thor Ewing at the bottom of the page) dated to the Viking era. It is a woolen hat that is a cone shape made out of two trapezoids with a near cone shape with a hexagon at the top of the hat

(image on page 14)

Thank you for the link. Your essay was very informative and I enjoyed reading it. Also, your relating of your experience at the Hastings reenactment has got my adrenaline going! :twisted:

I started shaking once you began describing the volley of arrows.

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