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Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15thC
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:14 pm
by MJBlazek
From an idea I got from Gerhard von Liebow- I am looking for documentation of Early 15th century embroidered hosen.
pictures, descriptions, anecdotes.. anything. I know, as he has also said, documenation may be slim for these.
Thanks!
MJ
Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:09 pm
by Gethin
Tres Riche Hours Duc de Berri
The servers in the feast scenes all have embroidered hosen.
Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:14 am
by James B.
Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:25 pm
by Rana
Wow that's a beautiful image. Thank you for posting.
I want all those in a giant, full-color book. Recs?
Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:07 pm
by Gethin
I have found the large hardcover version in used bookstores on several occassions. I would look for it in the Art/History sections.
Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:12 pm
by James B.
I have a book with the images I got at a used book shop; it is orange in hardback with a hard slip cover. I am not sure of the name off the top of my head. I find the blown up images on Wikipedia are more useful for details

Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:51 am
by Chris Gilman
I have always seen reenactors wearing the bollock dagger upright between the pouch straps. However, in this painting I don't know why I never noticed the ballock daggers pointing down like penises and the pouches looking like scrotums. Was this common or is the artist making a statement of these fellows manhood? It certainly makes the shape of both the dagger and the pouch much more blatant.
Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:48 pm
by Rana
I think it's a cigar.

Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:05 pm
by Charlotte J
Oh, my. I've probably looked at this image hundreds of times, and never noticed that.
Now, I'll never NOT notice that.

Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:13 am
by James B.
I think they have it passing through one of the pouch loops which is why it hangs that way; I noticed it ages ago, there are a few images here and there with the dagger worn sideways instead of up and down.
Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:01 pm
by Sean Powell
Chris Gilman wrote:I have always seen reenactors wearing the bollock dagger upright between the pouch straps. However, in this painting I don't know why I never noticed the ballock daggers pointing down like penises and the pouches looking like scrotums. Was this common or is the artist making a statement of these fellows manhood? It certainly makes the shape of both the dagger and the pouch much more blatant.
I dunno what the reason is but I now have a need for a bollock dagger to go with my pouch. Can't exactly go walking around and claim 'shrinkage' on your weapon haft now can we?
Sean
Re: Looking for images of Embroidered Hose in the Early 15th
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:25 pm
by Lonewolf
To the original question: the image of Chaucer's Squire from the Ellesmere edition jumps to my mind. It is also in the right timeframe. Here is but one of the pages that show it:
http://www.virtue.to/articles/bells.html