Jousting toys
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Jousting toys
Does anyone have links to other pictures of these jousting toys in Vienna?
http://www.turnier.sankt-wendel.de/bild ... lung_4.jpg
I am thinking about the possibility of producing them, and need more views and angles.
Thanks!
Mac
http://www.turnier.sankt-wendel.de/bild ... lung_4.jpg
I am thinking about the possibility of producing them, and need more views and angles.
Thanks!
Mac
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I wish I had a little tot or three who would enjoy that. Jeez, I should be careful what I wish for...both of my daughters are of bearing age. Feel like a shadow just fell over my grave!
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No photos, sorry.
But if you do make them, put me down for a pair. I always regret not getting one of your pewter canteen/flask/costrels when they were available. I don't want to miss these as well.
But if you do make them, put me down for a pair. I always regret not getting one of your pewter canteen/flask/costrels when they were available. I don't want to miss these as well.
Toys for the Grand-kids?Paladin74 wrote:I wish I had a little tot or three who would enjoy that. Jeez, I should be careful what I wish for...both of my daughters are of bearing age. Feel like a shadow just fell over my grave!
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Found this one a little further down the page on Google image search:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/su-lin/5994855390/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/su-lin/5994855390/
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Perhaps you should offer them with the optional pinwheel?
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Thank you Ernst, and G!
I think I will not bother with the windmill at this point.
Mac
I think I will not bother with the windmill at this point.
Mac
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Is this the same set?
http://wwwg.uni-klu.ac.at/kultdoku/kata ... l/1206.htm
Also, a postcard with a photo of one of the knights: https://shop.khm.at/produkte/product-de ... f252e2e2fa
http://wwwg.uni-klu.ac.at/kultdoku/kata ... l/1206.htm
Also, a postcard with a photo of one of the knights: https://shop.khm.at/produkte/product-de ... f252e2e2fa
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FWIW - here's an illustration of a sickly three-year-old with his toy knights in the Schwartz Trachtenbuch. Not wheeled, but possibly metal (and possibly more everydayish).
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI05036a08a.jpg
http://classes.bnf.fr/ema/grands/015.htm
A hollow-cast pewter knight, c. 1300:
http://collections.museumoflondon.org.u ... ect-145021
A bronze toy knight, 13th-14th century:
http://art.thewalters.org/detail/27938/ ... ed-knight/
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI05036a08a.jpg
http://classes.bnf.fr/ema/grands/015.htm
A hollow-cast pewter knight, c. 1300:
http://collections.museumoflondon.org.u ... ect-145021
A bronze toy knight, 13th-14th century:
http://art.thewalters.org/detail/27938/ ... ed-knight/
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A bit less jousting-sturdy, but it's a French toy knight at the Musee du Moyen Age (Cl.17751), c. 1360-1370.
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It is. Thank you!Karen Larsdatter wrote:Is this the same set?
http://wwwg.uni-klu.ac.at/kultdoku/kata ... l/1206.htm
When I follow this link, I don't get a postcard with the knight. Can you help me figure out what I am doing wrong?Karen Larsdatter wrote:Also, a postcard with a photo of one of the knights: https://shop.khm.at/produkte/product-de ... f252e2e2fa
Thanks!
Mac
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The craftsmen of old had their secrets, and those secrets died with them. We are not the better for that, and neither are they.
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The craftsmen of old had their secrets, and those secrets died with them. We are not the better for that, and neither are they.
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http://www.billyandcharlie.com
https://www.facebook.com/BillyAndCharlie
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This image features in my idea about how to play with these. Note how there are weights on the strings passing over the edges of the table.Karen Larsdatter wrote:FWIW - here's an illustration of a sickly three-year-old with his toy knights in the Schwartz Trachtenbuch. Not wheeled, but possibly metal (and possibly more everydayish).
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI05036a08a.jpg
http://classes.bnf.fr/ema/grands/015.htm
This guy is on my list as a project for the future.Karen Larsdatter wrote:A hollow-cast pewter knight, c. 1300:
http://collections.museumoflondon.org.u ... ect-145021
I'm not so sure about this guy.... He's sort of minimalist.Karen Larsdatter wrote:A bronze toy knight, 13th-14th century:
http://art.thewalters.org/detail/27938/ ... ed-knight/
Thank you, Karen!
Mac
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The craftsmen of old had their secrets, and those secrets died with them. We are not the better for that, and neither are they.
http://www.lightlink.com/armory/
http://www.billyandcharlie.com
https://www.facebook.com/BillyAndCharlie
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This guy is on my to-do-list as well, if folks are interested.Karen Larsdatter wrote:
A bit less jousting-sturdy, but it's a French toy knight at the Musee du Moyen Age (Cl.17751), c. 1360-1370.
Mac
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http://www.lightlink.com/armory/
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If you make these I will get a bastard on some wench just to give them to him.
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try this oneMac wrote:When I follow this link, I don't get a postcard with the knight. Can you help me figure out what I am doing wrong?Karen Larsdatter wrote:Also, a postcard with a photo of one of the knights: https://shop.khm.at/produkte/product-de ... f252e2e2fa
Thanks!
Mac
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There we go. Thank you, Tom!
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Mac,
E-mailed some photos to you.
I will post them here when I am back at my computer and not on my phone.
In the mean time here is an article from the Met.
The Little Knights of the Living-room Table
E-mailed some photos to you.
I will post them here when I am back at my computer and not on my phone.
In the mean time here is an article from the Met.
The Little Knights of the Living-room Table
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Thank you, Tom! Those are just the sort of thing I am looking for.
I returned your Email this morning but got a concierge message.
Mac
I returned your Email this morning but got a concierge message.
Mac
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Yeah that is my work email and I am taking a couple days off of work.Mac wrote:Thank you, Tom! Those are just the sort of thing I am looking for.
I returned your Email this morning but got a concierge message.
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Mine too.Mac wrote:This guy is on my to-do-list as well, if folks are interested.Karen Larsdatter wrote:
A bit less jousting-sturdy, but it's a French toy knight at the Musee du Moyen Age (Cl.17751), c. 1360-1370.
Mac
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When my boys were little, we made a bunch of the ceramic knights and finger puppets out of sculpy clay, they looked just like the fired ones..
When my boys were little, we made a bunch of the ceramic knights and finger puppets out of sculpy clay, they looked just like the fired ones..
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Re: Jousting toys
looking at the original picture posted the base, horse, wheels, knight, and reins are all separate pieces, cast and then riveted (for lack of a better word). the legs of the nights have "nails" and the reins do too, also there is a definite line below the hooves.
I also see 2 loops for stings below the base. could it have been set on a board with a tilting rail in the middle and a guide string so they were given a push and ran down the string with one (hopefully) falling over in the tilt? I like the hole in the rear for real horsehair tails too
I also see 2 loops for stings below the base. could it have been set on a board with a tilting rail in the middle and a guide string so they were given a push and ran down the string with one (hopefully) falling over in the tilt? I like the hole in the rear for real horsehair tails too
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Hi Mac,
I know you have seen this reference, because we spoke about it at Pennsic. However, they are pictured in the following book:
Kunsthistorisches Museum, Wien Waffensammlung
Katalog Der Leibrustkammer
I. Teil
Der Zeitraum Von 500 bis 1530
Verlag Anton Schroll & Co. Wein
Plate 84. My copy was printed 1976. The text may offer additional insight if translated.
I know you have seen this reference, because we spoke about it at Pennsic. However, they are pictured in the following book:
Kunsthistorisches Museum, Wien Waffensammlung
Katalog Der Leibrustkammer
I. Teil
Der Zeitraum Von 500 bis 1530
Verlag Anton Schroll & Co. Wein
Plate 84. My copy was printed 1976. The text may offer additional insight if translated.
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Thank you, Jacob!
I need to scan those pics and put them in my collection.
Mac
I need to scan those pics and put them in my collection.
Mac
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The craftsmen of old had their secrets, and those secrets died with them. We are not the better for that, and neither are they.
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The craftsmen of old had their secrets, and those secrets died with them. We are not the better for that, and neither are they.
http://www.lightlink.com/armory/
http://www.billyandcharlie.com
https://www.facebook.com/BillyAndCharlie