English Noble of 1461 AD (Garb help!)

[Aaron]

Hi,

My armour is starting to look right for an English noble of 1461 AD, but my garb is a bit off.

Can I get some advice and suggestions on where to go to get a good and durable kit?

[Wolf]

historic enterprises, medieval deisgn, and matauls are prob the best places to look for ready made 15thc clothing.

prob with english is the lack of artwork. some say you need balled shoulders, other say what lil art there is dont support it.

but heres a rundown

linen under shirt, linen tighty whitey brais
doublet cut to the body
hosen, complete with cod piece.
shoes
belt
hat
either a livery vest, jacket or some kind of gown. but u said noble right? so i would go with a nice gown, maybe fur lined and edged. some art work it looks like younger guys wear shorter gowns while older wiser wear longer.

come on over to http://www.lordgreys.org and have a look around

[Karen Larsdatter]

Are you looking to make clothing, or buy it? (Check out the Buckingham's Retinue Guidebook for some ideas of what sorts of things to look for, in either case.)

[Jehan de Pelham]

Aaron, I think that you should lay aside pretensions to being able to portray a noble, given the time frame involved (ten months). I would recommend a man at arms or esquire at the outside. Then, issues become much more simple.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

[Aaron]

Aaron, I think that you should lay aside pretensions to being able to portray a noble, given the time frame involved (ten months). I would recommend a man at arms or esquire at the outside. Then, issues become much more simple.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
www.mron.org

Cool!

So the armet and other gear would be OK for a man-at-arms...I can see that, and the documentation is there.

Does anyone have a web-site for a man-at-arms of 1461 AD England, rough-and-ready, field garb? It looks sort-of like what I've got now, sort of...I think.

[Aaron]

historic enterprises, medieval deisgn, and matauls are prob the best places to look for ready made 15thc clothing.

prob with english is the lack of artwork. some say you need balled shoulders, other say what lil art there is dont support it.

but heres a rundown

linen under shirt, linen tighty whitey brais
doublet cut to the body
hosen, complete with cod piece.
shoes
belt
hat
either a livery vest, jacket or some kind of gown. but u said noble right? so i would go with a nice gown, maybe fur lined and edged. some art work it looks like younger guys wear shorter gowns while older wiser wear longer.

come on over to http://www.lordgreys.org and have a look around

Nice!

I'll PM you for a phone number so we can chat a bit. This will take some work to pull me out of my ignorance on garb...fighter brain.

[James B.]

Here is a list of items:

Linen Shirt
Linen braies
Wool doublet with linen lining - Ball shoulders seem common in the few 1460s images from England
Wool hosen
Wool gown with linen lining - Fur trim or lining optional.
Shoes or boots to ankle or mid calf - Stay away from tall boots unless you are riding a horse
Belt
Kidney pouch or cloth pouch
Hat - Boiled knit wool bowler, wool with linen lined acorn hat, or a wool or silk chaperon