Landsknecht Hat - Picture heavy

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:46 am

So I wanted to make one of the smaller Landsknecht hats that all look soft in the images. Below are okay examples of the hat style I was aiming for but there are better Urs Graf images from 1515 to 1530 with the exact hat I made in them I could not find online, I will have to scan them and add them later:

[img]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/images/Research/Landsknecht/German/full/12ulrich.jpg[/img]
[img]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/images/Research/Landsknecht/osprey/full/NiklausManuelDeutsh1515.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.st-max.org/OLD_SITE/images/woodcuts/Speisstrager-4.jpg[/img]

The interesting thing about the reconstruction of this hat is that it is all squares and rectangles with the exception of the head hole. The brim is a long rectangle with angled ends pleated into the head hole of the top; it is the only way to get that slashed look without 2 pieces which I don't see in any of the art of the time. I could make one of the larger brim hats in the same method buy just increasing the brim rectangle.

My reconstruction:

[img]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/images/Historical%20Clothing/16th/Landsknecht/PICT0014.jpg[/img]
[img]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/images/Historical%20Clothing/16th/Landsknecht/PICT0017.jpg[/img]
[img]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/images/Historical%20Clothing/16th/Landsknecht/PICT0020.jpg[/img]
[img]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/images/Historical%20Clothing/16th/Landsknecht/PICT0021.jpg[/img]
[img]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/images/Historical%20Clothing/16th/Landsknecht/PICT0022.jpg[/img]

What do you guys think?

Primvs Pavlvs · Post by **Primvs Pavlvs** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:47 am

GANZ TOLL!!!!

Winterfell · Post by **Winterfell** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:49 am

Looks good. I see you have not been slacking since you got back.

T. Finkas · Post by **T. Finkas** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:50 am

Great job!

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:59 am

Thanks guys, next step it to add the ties on and a linen piece to finish the head hole properly.

Winterfell

Nope gearing up to sell some hats at Holiday Faire, got a used A&A Henry V sword to pay for

. Also Gerry Embletonâ€™s Pavia model at the Royal Armories was a big inspiration on a project I already have planed, Tempora Atlantia is 1492-1600 at crown.

Tim

I also plan to do a version with your top part on it, I did the one with the fold lines showing and yours can do the opposite with the solid square top.

T. Finkas · Post by **T. Finkas** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:40 am

I dunno, James...I like your solution better I think!

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:44 am

Both are found in the art, comes down to a matter of taste

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:55 am

very nice.

so, how much to make me one? Sans arming cap?

Frederich Von Teufel · Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:13 pm

James, very nice interpretation of the hat and coif. If you are interested in doing a black/red version, I have money in my pocket.

Frederich

Young Knight · Post by **Young Knight** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:06 pm

James B. wrote:Winterfell

Nope gearing up to sell some hats at Holiday Faire, got a used A&A Henry V sword to pay for . Also Gerry Embletonâ€™s Pavia model at the Royal Armories was a big inspiration on a project I already have planed, Tempora Atlantia is 1492-1600 at crown.

Well, good to know you won the sword. Now I only have to convince Jeff he needs an Albion Kingmaker...
-Wilhelm

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:20 pm

On most woodcuts I have seen of the ever present arming cap of the Landsknecht and back seems to stop well above the hairline. Lining up with the bottom of the ear more often than going lower.

Is there a particular reason you made the back of the arming cap lower?

and once again they both look nice.

checking my garb fund tonight.

Oh, did you hand sew this hat? Just curious.

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:34 pm

Machined inner stitching and hand finishing, the ties and brim liner will be hand stitched.

On the cap; this one is lower than the ear but not by much, there are several images of coifs that low. Also the dummy head is a bit small compared to my melon. That said my second arming cap is just a bit higher and I am trying a different cut of cloth to see if I can get it closer to the look in the images, I will have images Monday I hope.

Jonny Deuteronomy · Post by **Jonny Deuteronomy** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:37 pm

James B. wrote:What do you guys think?

What do I think?
<img src="http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/images/Historical%20Clothing/16th/Landsknecht/PICT0021.jpg" border="0" />
==
<img src="http://images.savontv.com/im/nwimages/chia-shrek.jpg" border="0" />
I think I have too much time on my hands this afternoon.
:shock:

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:44 pm

Bald is beautiful :wink:

Jonny Deuteronomy · Post by **Jonny Deuteronomy** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:08 pm

just kiddin' around, man. it's actually a nice rig.

woodwose · Post by **woodwose** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:04 pm

The interesting thing about the reconstruction of this hat is that it is all squares and rectangles with the exception of the head hole. The brim is a long rectangle with angled ends pleated into the head hole of the top; it is the only way to get that slashed look without 2 pieces which I don't see in any of the art of the time. I could make one of the larger brim hats in the same method buy just increasing the brim rectangle.

so is that the kind of hat-top that can be made from one giant square with the corners folded in a few times? looks great, I want to make one with a slashed brim someday[/quote]

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:33 am

Dweezle

If you want the solid square top use the pattern Tim came up with just make it one solid piece instead of 4 pieces sewn together:

Landsknecht Hat - Picture heavy

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