The Armour Archive

Johannes wrote:Lucien has been removed from the English rolls, and will suffer no ill will for foreswearing his spoken intention to fight for his rightful lord, the King of England. His ransom negotiations, however, promise to be protracted and expensive...

Lucian Ro wrote:Uh-oh, I better see a money-lender, post-haste.

sir nigel wrote:Here are the rules for the Combat of the Thirty:
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Combat of the Thirty
1.) No basket hilts--all swords will have cross hilts. (NB: One handed weapons are going to be of very little use since you may only thrust with them.)
2.) No un-padded poll arms--all pole weapons must have an appropriately-shaped head of significant mass.
3.) No pole weapon may exceed 6 feet, no spear may exceed 7 feet, no sword may exceed 50 inches.
4.) We are using an assumed-plate standard. Blows to the body and limbs have no effect.
5.) Thrusts to an open face (i.e., a bargrill), neck, armpit, inside of the elbow, back of the ass, or back of the thigh (unless someone is actually wearing closed cuisses) all "kill" (or render you unable to continue—same thing). If you are "killed" you are out of the entire combat.
6.) Heavy blows to the head *did* have an effect, so any blow with a two-handed weapon will count towards a "stun." If you are struck three times to the head in any single engagement you are counted as stunned and must yield. We're all gentlemen, so we can all use common sense and a sense of honor to be realistic about what "a single engagement" means. If you get hit twice and then fighting breaks off, that's it, you start counting over. If three different guys hit you in the head one after the other with no real break in the fighting then you're stunned.
7.) Anyone who gets beaten so hard he can't continue may choose to yield.
8.) Anyone who is completely unarmed must yield (note that even a dagger is enough to prevent this).
9.) Anyone who touches the ground with anything other than the soles of his feet must yield.
10.) Capturing Prisoners: If you "must yield" (see above) or choose to do so then anyone (from the other side) can lay his weapon upon you or lay their hand upon to let you know that you are captured (e.g., "you're my prisoner," "yield!," "I've captured you," etc.). If no one does this then you may continue to fight as though nothing had happened.
11.) The captor must walk his prisoner off the field. While he's doing so, the captor may, of course, be forced to fight. If he is killed himself then the prisoner goes free. During such fights the prisoner must stand quietly awaiting the outcome.
12.) Prisoner's must off to the side of the field. If the person who captures them is "killed" (not captured, *killed*), then they are released and may return to the fighting as though nothing had happened.
13.) Ransom: There will only be one ransom paid and it is after the combat is over. You do not return to the engagement if you pay your ransom. The only way to return to the combat is if your captor dies.
14.) Combat will last until all of one side are either captured, killed or have retired voluntarily. A 10-minute break will be called every 15 minutes. (No one may bring in a horse at the last minute!) Anyone may voluntarily leave the field for as long as he wishes to rest and/or rearm at any time.
15.) The winning side is the one in possession of the field at the end.
16.) There's no setup of any kind required for this combat, but each side is required to bring enough water for their own people.
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Weapons will be as follows: two-handed swords between 44-50", not a sword that you can only grip the pommel with your second hands index finger and thumb; pole weapons that are 6' and under, be it a hammer, mace or axe and must be a two-handed weapon that look likes a medieval weapon and spears under 7 feet; back-up weapons are limited to daggers and short swords only. Earl Nigel and Sir Johannes will have the final say on all weapons.


Earl Nigel MacFarlane KSCA

Galleron wrote:Here is my evidence in favor of allowing spears of up to about eight feet:

http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.co ... -foot.html

Also, my tapered rattan spears are that length, and I'd be very reluctant to shorten them

Bleddyn De Caldicot wrote:

Galleron wrote:Here is my evidence in favor of allowing spears of up to about eight feet:

http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.co ... -foot.html

Also, my tapered rattan spears are that length, and I'd be very reluctant to shorten them

But cutting down your lance is appropriate for the time period as well.

Lucian Ro wrote:Sure thing. I cut the 1.75" plates out with aviation shears, from a 20-gauge solid brass kickplate I picked up at Home Depot. Ground and deburred them with a grinding wheel. Used the decorative washers from Revival for the center and solid brass dome top rivers from RJ Leahy to mount the plates.
It took about a full day to peen all the rivets but I'm pretty satisfied with the overall end appearance.

Leo Medii wrote:It's not the weapons, it's the mindset of the people who take the field for this deed.
Those who have participated over the last 5 years could all bring left handed spoons with dinner plates and it would be a worthy deed. When this deed becomes polluted with minds not set to this task, or those who seek not the hardships of this deed and instead are undertaking it because "it's cool" and gives them points it will begin to lose its worth.

Basically, when the wusses decide to come play because "they can" it will fall from it's wings and become "just another fight".

Jean Paul de Sens wrote:

Leo Medii wrote:It's not the weapons, it's the mindset of the people who take the field for this deed.
Those who have participated over the last 5 years could all bring left handed spoons with dinner plates and it would be a worthy deed. When this deed becomes polluted with minds not set to this task, or those who seek not the hardships of this deed and instead are undertaking it because "it's cool" and gives them points it will begin to lose its worth.

Basically, when the wusses decide to come play because "they can" it will fall from it's wings and become "just another fight".

I can't remember his exact words from last year, but I do remember Hannes saying something to the effect of :

"If you are going to whine about whether a shot is called or not, you should go away now, because this is not the fight for you."

Still makes me smile.

JP

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:I just learned to dagger-stab alot harder.

ALOT harder.

Gregoire de Lyon wrote:

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:I just learned to dagger-stab alot harder.

ALOT harder.

Lucky for us French you aren't tall enough to reach above our knees!

Nissan Maxima wrote:If I can buy an acceptable helmet at war I am up for it.

Nissan Maxima wrote:If I can buy an acceptable helmet at war I am up for it.