Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:32 pm
I AM an expert...trust me.
Something is deeply wrong with Brian Price.
Something is deeply wrong with Brian Price.
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Vitus von Atzinger wrote:I AM an expert...trust me.
Something is deeply wrong with Brian Price.
Marco-borromei wrote:Vitus von Atzinger wrote:I AM an expert...trust me.
Something is deeply wrong with Brian Price.
Perhaps you are, I don't know you.
In this case, however, you are a victim, as are many others.
You could be Price's doctor or therapist and your opinion would still be questionable because you are ALSO a victim of his business practices.
Perhaps we should leave clinical diagnosis to impartial, licensed medical professionals.
Does that sound better?
BrianRPrice wrote:I have always said that chivalry is not a matter of acting with perfection (although I wish I were better at it), but is rather a question of making suitable amends after a wrong has occurred. Some of the things that happened in the business have been my fault, others have not. But I have been solely responsible for the communication which has not happened, and while the stresses accruing from a multitude of events corresponding at once in 2006 was great, that does not free me from responsibility and I will continue to pursue remedies.
Galleron wrote:In Chronique Issue #10, Brian price reprinted my copyrighted illustrations from Elizabeth Bennett's translation of King Rene's Tournament Book without attribution or my permission, on pages 37, 43, and 60. You can see the the illustrations here:
http://www.princeton.edu/~ezb/rene/renehome.html
In the same issue, he reprinted illustrations from Claude Blair's European Armour without attribution on pages 46 and 49
"where the copyright owner sustains the burden of proving, and the court finds, that infringement was committed willfully, the court in its discretion may increase the award of statutory damages to a sum of not more than $150,000.
Luca Sogliano wrote:But perhaps clinical diagnosis could be left to an expert.
Lady Charlotte wrote:...not that I'm a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist, nor do I play one on TV.
But I have been solely responsible for the communication which has not happened, and while the stresses accruing from a multitude of events corresponding at once in 2006 was great, that does not free me from responsibility and I will continue to pursue remedies.
5) Finally, during 2006, Mr. Mele and other members of the Chicago Swordplay Guild refused to participate in our joint WMAW/Schola Saint George Symposium held here in DFW. There was a great deal of ugliness written and posted about the organization of the event and predictions of a dire failure, which highlighted the very ugliest side of WMA politics. To be completely frank, this assault on the event given the many hours of coordination, production and the thousands of dollars fronted for it really threw me for a mental loop, and I resolved at that time to transition out of the WMA and possibly out of "sword stuff" altogether. This noise extended far beyond the event itself and I have to believe also contributed to slowing sales of books.
Greg Mele wrote:She didn't diagnose Brian, or claim to; she simply gave one possible example and related it to personal experience. Let's not read more into that than was intended.
Lady Charlotte wrote:Hello, Galleron,Galleron wrote:In Chronique Issue #10, Brian price reprinted my copyrighted illustrations from Elizabeth Bennett's translation of King Rene's Tournament Book without attribution or my permission, on pages 37, 43, and 60. You can see the the illustrations here:
http://www.princeton.edu/~ezb/rene/renehome.html
In the same issue, he reprinted illustrations from Claude Blair's European Armour without attribution on pages 46 and 49
I'm so sorry that happened to you!!!
If the party's use doesn't constitute "fair use," then (assuming the statute of limitations hasn't run) the copyright owner is entitled to statutory damages of "not less than $750 or more than $30,000 as the court considers just," under 17 U.S.C. §504(c)(1), and, under 17 U.S.C. §504(c)(2):"where the copyright owner sustains the burden of proving, and the court finds, that infringement was committed willfully, the court in its discretion may increase the award of statutory damages to a sum of not more than $150,000.
If a copyrighted work bears the owner's copyright notice, it's usually a slam-dunk to demonstrate that infringement was "committed willfully," and it doesn't matter whether the infringing use was commercial or not.
Lady Charlotte
Gaston de Clermont wrote:Greg, your assertion that Brian never accepts fault isn't accurate:BrianRPrice wrote:I have always said that chivalry is not a matter of acting with perfection (although I wish I were better at it), but is rather a question of making suitable amends after a wrong has occurred. Some of the things that happened in the business have been my fault, others have not. But I have been solely responsible for the communication which has not happened, and while the stresses accruing from a multitude of events corresponding at once in 2006 was great, that does not free me from responsibility and I will continue to pursue remedies.
Maybe he doesn't go far enough, and maybe he doesn't accept responsibility for the things you want him to, but "never" isn't right.
BrianRPrice wrote:With Talbot, Vitus, or any other individual who feels personally wronged, I warmly invite you to contact me directly and we'll work out a solution.
BrianRPrice wrote:But I have been solely responsible for the communication which has not happened, and while the stresses accruing from a multitude of events corresponding at once in 2006 was great, that does not free me from responsibility and I will continue to pursue remedies.
Leo Medii wrote:Hello Brian, since you have seen this thread, could you contact me about my gauntlet order I placed quite a long time ago?
Thanks for your time.
Leo Medii wrote:I was just hoping for some info on an order I gave him a deposit on of 25% in 1994. I did not realize that this was rude, or in bad form. I only asked because Brain had come here to post.
Leo Medii wrote:Hi Talbot, can you keep us informed how this turns out? I'd like to know if I have a chance of seeing my deposit or some gauntlets at some point.
Thanks!
Leo Medii wrote:I would just like a yes, or no if he intended to make my gauntlets or will.
Leo Medii wrote:All I know is I'm glad other people will be spared my loss now.
Talbot wrote:Brian,
In the “Sword in Two Hands” thread on the Armour Archive, you stated, "Regarding your armour bits, yes, I do acknowledge the debt for these." and later suggested, "With Talbot, Vitus, or any other individual who feels personally wronged, I warmly invite you to contact me directly and we'll work out a solution." I am taking you up on this.
As far as I am concerned the other matters are in the past. I have stated my feelings about them and you have responded. In that matter I am done. However, there is the matter of the outstanding armour pieces. If you wish to make good on this I would welcome it. I fully understand that while completing your doctorate you do not have time to get into the shop to make these items for me. I certainly would not have had time while completing mine. I would be glad to accept other items you have in stock in compensation so we can put this matter to rest. We would have to determine a mutually agreeable fair market value for the items owed.
One reasonable thing you could do would be to provide me with copies of books by Christian Tobler, Dr. Forgeng, Guy Windsor or other authors who are owed royalties. I could then pass them on to these authors thereby allowing them to sell them personally and receive some measure of compensation for their work. This would not in any way relieve you of debts owed to them but it would make me feel as if I am helping out in some small way. I am open to other offers if you prefer. I await your reply.
Talbot wrote:Well, he responded about 4 hours after I wrote him on February 23rd. He proposed a figure of $1500 as what he owed me and apologized for any hurt he may have caused me while rationalizing what happened between us. He then went on to explain why others were wrong to expect compensation from him and represented himself as the wronged party.
I replied to him the next day (Feb 24th.) Here was my response.Brian,
I honestly know very little of the bad blood between you, Greg, Nicole and Christian. I had previously heard bits and pieces but I was not interested and had little desire to know. Since they knew that you and I were friends they did not regale me with stories of the split and I was content with that.
My primary difficulty with you stems from the end of our business arrangements. You were unreliable and IMPOSSIBLE to contact. You ignored dozens of phone calls and emails. I know it is hard when you feel your back is up against a wall and the easiest path is to ignore it. This never works. It just alienates people. It changed my opinion of you from someone who was overwhelmed and doing the best he could to someone who was knowingly being dishonest. I was hurt and offended that you could do this to someone with whom you professed to be friends. Whatever trust I had for you was gone. Nevertheless, I have remained quiet about this and have never spoken or written about it publicly. When I read the thread I discovered that this has constituted a pattern of behavior with many other people. I was shocked and was moved to publicly come out and share my experiences with others.
You have an opportunity here. No path is set in stone. Find a way to make amends with those you have wronged. I'm sure you believe you have not intentionally wronged others but I challenge you to take a good hard look in the mirror. If this many people are feeling wronged by you then you have done wrong. I work with students who cannot or will not take responsibility for their actions. Until they learn to accept the fact that their actions have hurt others (intentionally or not) they will never be able to move forward. You are in the identical position right now. Until you accept that your behavior has harmed others you will not be able to move on and grow. You are about to embark on a new phase in your life. You will soon be Dr. Price. This can be a wonderful thing. However, storm clouds are gathering and they are heading in your direction. You can still make this right. There are people out there to whom you owe things and who have been wronged. Make it right. Sell some things and pay off the royalties. Consider it an act of penance. Publicly admit what wrong you did and seek to make it right.
Here is the first step.
If you were proposing a monetary payment I would accept the $1500 amount you had proposed. However, I was actually thinking that the figure should be closer to $2000 in merchandise. Either way cash or merchandise is fine with me. I am concerned, based on your track record, that your offer may prove to be empty. Please prove me wrong. Then take that good hard look in the mirror. I await your response.
Doug
It is now March 2nd and a week has passed since the contact. I have not heard anything since. I am guessing I will not see any money or merchandise. Perhaps he will surprise us all.
Talbot wrote:Given that his first response came mere hours after the initial email and the fact that the dozens of unanswered emails and phone calls is the exact pattern of behavior that prompted the disolution of our business relationship (as stated in my letter to Brian above) I beleive that a week is sufficient time to begin to despair of ever getting a response. Perhaps I am wrong but I feel I have been here before. I hope I am wrong.
Should he reply I will gladly notify this board.
Lady Charlotte wrote:But Talbot is still waiting, right?
Galleron wrote:As this has become a very long thread, (401 posts as of now) I've put up a short summary here:
http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.co ... valry.html
Sunlight is the best disinfectant!
Galleron wrote:Galleron wrote:As this has become a very long thread, (401 posts as of now) I've put up a short summary here:
http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.co ... valry.html
Sunlight is the best disinfectant!
320 page views and counting.
Adrielle Kerrec wrote:So has the Crown of the Kingdom he resides in considered banishing him?
Greg Mele wrote:Galleron,
I just checked the paperback edition and it does appear there, on the back cover, not in the frontispiece or in the introduction.
I have the first edition hardback as well, but without a dust-jacket. I can only say that in the book itself there is no mention of Morris, but there *is* a statement that the Ordene is presented "for the first time in English".
The early editions of Lull were very low print runs, so Brian may have corrected this at some point. I can't speak to this more than that, since the allegations by the U or Iowa was the first I ever knew of this.
I would also add that one should compare Morris' version of Lull with Brian's "re-Englished" Lull. I haven't made an extremely close examination of this, just a few pages, but those certainly suggested that Brian was not working from Caxton, but transcribing Morris. Again, would would need a more thorough comparison.
Best,
Greg
Galleron wrote:What's the publication date of the first edition hardback and of your paperback? And I assume the "first time in English" is not in the paperback edition,