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Bec de Corbin?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 4:05 am
by Bernhart von Bruck
Heilsa!

Is it possible to fight with one of these in the SCA? I've seen A LOT of glaives, but not one of these.....

Thanks,

Lord S.

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"Trust ye in the LORD forever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength."
Isaiah 26:4

Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 6:41 am
by Constancius
I don't se why not, unless their not period. Just be sure to obey the 90 degree rule.

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Constancius of Lincolnshire

animis corporibusque

Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 3:10 pm
by Jean Paul de Sens
Snaebjorn, ignore Constantious. Ansteorra (I saw you are in TX ) has NO 90 degree rule like other wussy kingdoms we could name.

My knight has a more pollaxe than a bec de corbin, and we are learning how to fight with it.

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Jean Paul de Sens (JP)

And Shepherds we shall be
for thee my lord for thee
power hath descended forth from thy hand
so that my feet may swiftly carry out thy command
And we shall flow a river forth unto thee
And teeming with souls shall it ever be
In nomini patriath, fili, espritus sancti.

-The Boondock Saints

Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 3:19 pm
by The Lost Scott
JP
The 90 degree rule is it that way for great swords also here?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 3:33 pm
by muttman
Does the East still have a 90 degree rule, or is it now reasonable force?
John

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 3:51 pm
by Asbjorn Johansen
The East Kingdom has a 90 degree rule for great weapons in melee's but not for single combat.

East Kingdom Rules can be view at http://www.eastkingdom.org/combat/fighting/policies.html

Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 12:04 am
by Constancius
The 90 degree rule doesn't mean that you can't swing past 90 degrees. It only limits you to putting power into the swing at 90 degrees.
IIRC the rule is SCA wide.
You can start your swing behind your back, but you can't power up until you reach 90 degrees(your shoulders).

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Constancius of Lincolnshire

animis corporibusque

Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 9:43 am
by IainMcClennan
The only issue with bec de corbins is the spike can't get any narrower than 1.25", and by then it doesn't look too much like a spike.


Ian

Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 11:34 am
by Asbjorn Johansen
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Constancius:
<B> The 90 degree rule doesn't mean that you can't swing past 90 degrees. It only limits you to putting power into the swing at 90 degrees.
IIRC the rule is SCA wide.
You can start your swing behind your back, but you can't power up until you reach 90 degrees(your shoulders).

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Unless I am mis-reading the current Marshal's Handbook, or there has been a revision since the 11/2000 edition, the 90 degree rule is not Society wide.

The Eastern rule for 90 degree swing in melee is very clear:

CM4. No two-handed weapons will be swung through an arc greater than 90 degrees.

There is no distinction made between powered and unpowered swings. Now this rule may not be enforced with any regularity, but it is the rule, so be aware if you swing more then 90 degrees, even if your blow is the lightest tap imaginable, the Marshal's (or another fighter) can call you on it.

Now I do not agree with the rule, I think our rules against excessively hard blows should cover any danger from greatweapons, but it is still the rule.

Asbjorn

Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 4:37 pm
by Harold the Bear
I'm a page in the east and i fight one Image

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They call him Bear,

Harold der Bär

Posted: Sat May 19, 2001 2:30 pm
by Gaston
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Constancius:
<B> IIRC the rule is SCA wide.
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No, Meridies doesn't have it any more.