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Regarding the Tessa's report of knights teaching others to hurt archers and break equipment, I have brought that issue to the attention of the knights currently on the SCA_Chivalry@yahoogroups list and will keep them informed of any communications I receive on that topic from Tessa and others. I would ask that any knights not on that list pass this on to others in their kingdom. These are serious charges that not only question our chivalry, but frankly, if true have the potential for serious actions to be taken both within the SCA and from mundane authorities.
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tessathehuntress wrote:Greetings!
However, I know all too well unfortunately, that there are areas where archers are not liked and some fighters are taught to try and hurt the archer and/or to intentionally try and break their equipment (often their crossbow, while the archer is holding it). Yes, I know multiple instances of this and yes the fighter involved admitted that was how they were taught, several were taught by their knight to try and break the bow/crossbow intentionally.
Tessa, Princess of AEthelmearc
edit... damn sir richard sounds serious...
here come the chiv lol and a ; )
sir richard tattled
Hi princess tessa(giggle because its cool...congrats) please try not to make broad sweeping generalizations.
not only are you the ex-society CA marshall... remember you will be queen soon and that means that you words will carry huge weight. I am sure what you wrote has happened. we have a large number of combatants but you make it seem like its common place. can you give any documentable evidence its common? I am not flaming you but those words are hard to read coming from a society based high level respected personage.... the only way I can thing of people being taught to hurt archers would be some extremely fringy household run by some guy wearing a thulsa doom helmet.
I cant even imagine someone truly sca teacing a person to hurt anyone. and when you mean hurt I am interpreting it as injure... a full combat archer takes the risk just like anyone else and if he gets a bruise pulling out a weapon then its well deserved. a huge one due to malice is not. again time for a little talk. every injury needs to see the injured and the cause examined and documented and if there is a need for correction it should be made then and there.
as to breaking expensive equipment??? its card pulling time. I think we dont pull enough cards in the sca. whats so bad about two weeks suspension. teaches the lesson and the shame
that goes along with it makes the point 
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been a while...
mrks
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Richard Blackmoore wrote: These are serious charges that not only question our chivalry, but frankly, if true have the potential for serious actions to be taken both within the SCA and from mundane authorities.
Richard Blackmoore
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If it is found to be true, I do hope the Order holds those accountable.
I have not heard of this type of thing before, at least nothing more than "take out the archer", meaning in a legal fashion, because it is a tactical benefit.
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Just a note from someone who is primarily a heavy fighter but also shoots people. I have seen CA's have a brain fart and block on the crossbow. You are still dead, plus stupid when you do this and it is your own fault when it happens. Whining is unseemly.
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The reason I am both seriously concerned and seriously pissed off, is precisely because of who Tessa is. A person I respect, who up until very recently was SCA Society level deputy marshal for combat archery society wide AND who is now current sitting kingdom royalty.
Given those three specific points, I assume that:
a) She is telling the truth.
b) She is aware of specific incidents, has the details and has names of both a number of unbelted and at least one belted fighter involved as she indicated the unbelteds admitted being trained to do this. This was not a 'crime of passion' or 'temporary act' of stupidity. The way she describes it, it is premeditated real life crime (assault) and violates both the spirit and rules of the SCA. This sort of stupidity threatens the SCA's financial security as well as the health of its members and guests.
c) She would have reported this various incidents and asked for it to be investigated at the event(s) that it occured at givenher position in the Society. If she was not present I assume she asked someone to look into it through appropriate channels at a kingdom level or higher as needed.
Now as I see it, there are only a few possible outcomes.
a) Tessa through no fault of her own, is mistaken or misinformed. This seems unlikely.
b) We have a very serious potential problem. I want to know what is being done about it or what has already been done about it to date. I want the innocent knights and fighters cleared of wrongdoing and those who are guilty to be handled appropriately. Censure and retraining is the minimum appropriate course of action if they truly did this on purpose with premeditation (though frankly that is not enough in my opinion, I'd want their cards yanked or possibly even have them banished from the SCA/R&D'd).
It takes a lot to get me this angry. Knights and other fighters intentionally injuring others is one thing that will definitely get me going. Usually stories about some unnamed knight, doing something wrong at some unnameed event to some unnamed person are just that, stories. Tessa made it clear this isn't one of those urban legends. As such it deserves our immediate attention and that of the appropriate marshals/kingdoms. Someone in Tessa's position cannot make those kinds of statements without expecting it to be taken seriously and acted upon in good faith. That is our job as knights, to step up and get involved when bad things happen on the field, especially when Tessa is squarely laying the blame on at least one of the knights in the SCA for teaching this.
Richard Blackmoore
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Given those three specific points, I assume that:
a) She is telling the truth.
b) She is aware of specific incidents, has the details and has names of both a number of unbelted and at least one belted fighter involved as she indicated the unbelteds admitted being trained to do this. This was not a 'crime of passion' or 'temporary act' of stupidity. The way she describes it, it is premeditated real life crime (assault) and violates both the spirit and rules of the SCA. This sort of stupidity threatens the SCA's financial security as well as the health of its members and guests.
c) She would have reported this various incidents and asked for it to be investigated at the event(s) that it occured at givenher position in the Society. If she was not present I assume she asked someone to look into it through appropriate channels at a kingdom level or higher as needed.
Now as I see it, there are only a few possible outcomes.
a) Tessa through no fault of her own, is mistaken or misinformed. This seems unlikely.
b) We have a very serious potential problem. I want to know what is being done about it or what has already been done about it to date. I want the innocent knights and fighters cleared of wrongdoing and those who are guilty to be handled appropriately. Censure and retraining is the minimum appropriate course of action if they truly did this on purpose with premeditation (though frankly that is not enough in my opinion, I'd want their cards yanked or possibly even have them banished from the SCA/R&D'd).
It takes a lot to get me this angry. Knights and other fighters intentionally injuring others is one thing that will definitely get me going. Usually stories about some unnamed knight, doing something wrong at some unnameed event to some unnamed person are just that, stories. Tessa made it clear this isn't one of those urban legends. As such it deserves our immediate attention and that of the appropriate marshals/kingdoms. Someone in Tessa's position cannot make those kinds of statements without expecting it to be taken seriously and acted upon in good faith. That is our job as knights, to step up and get involved when bad things happen on the field, especially when Tessa is squarely laying the blame on at least one of the knights in the SCA for teaching this.
Richard Blackmoore
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I'm sorry for derailing this thread.
On the comments above..
Sir mrks thanks very much for the congrats.
IMO, I didn't make "broad sweeping generalizations", I made a point to say in "some" areas" and "several". IMO, by no means does that mean all or even most areas and it's not most fighters or even most knights.
I made my comments 1. because it's true (I do have several documented instances and 2. to let people know that it does happen and has happen. That was to conter those people who posted above basically saying that people were over-reacting to the concept of archers being struck after they had yielded.
I did not make my comments to any way imply that this happens in every kingdom, in my experience (especially when I was the Society CA marshal) that's not true. Several kingdoms seem to love their archers and I believe anyone foolish enough to hit an archer who had yielded (and no I'm not referring to the new or inexperienced archer who yields at the last second, without moving/kneeling etc.. out of the path of the charging fighter.) I'm referring to ones that are obvious that the fighter knew/heard/saw that the archer yielded and choose to intentionally hit them.
While it is bad to hit someone who already yielded, there are IMO, worse cases out there. I do believe that the vast majority of our fighters and hopefully of our chivalry would be appalled at some of the things that do happen and have happened. That is part of the reason I made my earlier post, since I believe peer pressure will be the best way to address this issue/problem.
From my experience, hitting archers with the intent to injure or the more common of the two issues, with the intent to intentionally break their equipment tends to be a regional thing.. either more common in specific kingdoms.. or sometimes more common within a few large households (not the majority of the kingdom). It has happened in other kingdoms, but these things tend to happen more (still not making them common place) at larger and/or interkingdom events.
To try and make that a bit clearer.. it is something that happens. IMO, it is not a "common" or regular problem.. i.e. something that we see at every event or even every large event, but so far.. it is something that happens several times a year.. and that is just from what's been reported to me. So far, in my experience tracking down injuries and incidents.. a good bit of stuff doesn't get reported and/or not reported up the chain. That's something I worked hard on changing, but that's a different subject.
To answer Sir Richard, unfortunately this is something that I do know as fact. I did not mention names, since several of the incidents that were reported to me.. the person responsible was tracked down and was "corrected". So, on the marshallate side of things it was handled at the event. In my personal opinion, the response/punishment was not sufficient in several of the cases, but there are a lot of different marshalling styles and ways to deal with x..
One of the biggest problems with handling this problem is trying to track down the party involved, even harder when they aren't wearing a household tabard or personal arms.
There were a couple of incidents that concerned me more, because the archer involved knew the person that struck them, but refused to give that person's name. These were witnessed by other fighters and/or at least one marshal.. but they did not know the fighter's name and/or get a clear enough view of his armor to later identify him, but they did see the white belt.
I've tried to write this part several times.. and I just spent the last hour on it.. all time that I really need to spend fixing stuff so I can leave for Gulf Wars.. I'll try to sum this up.. then I can answer specific question.. or hopefully explain this better when I get back from Gulf wars..
Perhaps we should start a new thread with any further discussions on this..
Anyway.. I had/have no intention to put down the chivalry in general. I mentioned it.. because those individual knights and masters that I know would not do this.. most would be appalled.. and would do their best to try and fix the situation. I thought this would be a good time/place to bring this up.. since I strongly believe that "peer" pressure will have a much better and longer lasting effect than anything the marshallate can do with this.
Basically, people need to understand that this is not accepted behavior, that it's not "cool" or "just" to inentionally break anyone's equipment.. even "if" that person is "just an archer". I've heard fighters laugh about how many arrows/bolts they broke that day.. and I've heard other accounts of a fighter bragging when they broke a crossbow.. In one instance the fighter broke at least 3 crossbows. I find it appalling. I don't know which is worse, that the fighter believes this is accepted behavior.. or that the people that he talks to, apparently agree and/or condone his actions.
There seems to be a growing movement.. and in many areas, other fighters will even correct or stop other fighters from intentionally breaking bows, arrows, etc.. I would love to see that grow. That peer pressure, IMO is the best way to counter problems with fighters being intentionally struck after they yielded or in an attempt to injure them (the words quoted to me.. was "hurt them badly enough that they can't continue to fight". Another quote "we are doing our job if that archer is hurt so badly that they won't ever have the nerve to take the field again". Last quote "our job is to take out the archers, if we break their crossbows then they won't be taking the field for the rest of the day, at least. So, it's the best way to take out the archers."
Basically, I'm pointing out the problem. I would be happy to hear some solutions, especially in the cases where we can't track down the specific fighter involved.
On the archer side of it.. we've worked hard on teaching our archers .. the ones who yield not to stop in the middle of that fighter's path and yield, step to the side, kneel.. fall down.. I've started training archers of when they die, when they know they have no place to go etc.. since many of us don't yield any more.. right before the fighter gets to you, drop your bow/crossbow down to your side. In my experience, the vast majority of fighters will happily take that open head shot that you just gave them. It means your bow/crossbow is out of their target zones (since meany of us train to take those open head shots).. and on a personal level I would much rather get struck in the head then on my shoulder or arm where I only wear elbows (society minimums). There seems to be a growing number of fighters when they run across the archer (who did not yield, they basically conceded), who's not running.. and obviousily not attempting to shoot them (more often the archer is either out of missiles or caught flat footed).. and that fighter will give them a courtesy tap. I personally think that is awesome. I happily take that as a kill, but if someone hits me harder, that is fine too.. IMO, if I'm caught flat footed and you give me a courtesy tap, that is very nice.. but not something that someone is required to do. I'll cut off this tangent here. LOL>. Moving our bow/crossbow out of the way, results in less issues and problems, IMO.
Anyway, I hope that helps clear up some of it. Sir mrks, FWIW, I'm not aware of any incidents in An Tir.. although there may have been one at a west/An tir war 2 or 3 years ago. I'm trying not to list the ones that happened more than 3 years ago, especially ones that I can vouch for personally (i.e. happened to me), since that happened many years ago.. and in the past couple of years.. I've had no issues personally.. MY personal experience, as a full contact archer .. I've had less issues and problems then I did when I was non-contact or 10 foot call dead.. and it seems more respect from the average fighter. Well, a good number seem happier that they can hit me, even if though many times I've just gotten a courtesy tap from them.
Feel free to contact me directly with specific questions. I really need to get back to Gulf wars prep and finsihing stuf up before I leave.
Tessa
On the comments above..
Sir mrks thanks very much for the congrats.
IMO, I didn't make "broad sweeping generalizations", I made a point to say in "some" areas" and "several". IMO, by no means does that mean all or even most areas and it's not most fighters or even most knights.
I made my comments 1. because it's true (I do have several documented instances and 2. to let people know that it does happen and has happen. That was to conter those people who posted above basically saying that people were over-reacting to the concept of archers being struck after they had yielded.
I did not make my comments to any way imply that this happens in every kingdom, in my experience (especially when I was the Society CA marshal) that's not true. Several kingdoms seem to love their archers and I believe anyone foolish enough to hit an archer who had yielded (and no I'm not referring to the new or inexperienced archer who yields at the last second, without moving/kneeling etc.. out of the path of the charging fighter.) I'm referring to ones that are obvious that the fighter knew/heard/saw that the archer yielded and choose to intentionally hit them.
While it is bad to hit someone who already yielded, there are IMO, worse cases out there. I do believe that the vast majority of our fighters and hopefully of our chivalry would be appalled at some of the things that do happen and have happened. That is part of the reason I made my earlier post, since I believe peer pressure will be the best way to address this issue/problem.
From my experience, hitting archers with the intent to injure or the more common of the two issues, with the intent to intentionally break their equipment tends to be a regional thing.. either more common in specific kingdoms.. or sometimes more common within a few large households (not the majority of the kingdom). It has happened in other kingdoms, but these things tend to happen more (still not making them common place) at larger and/or interkingdom events.
To try and make that a bit clearer.. it is something that happens. IMO, it is not a "common" or regular problem.. i.e. something that we see at every event or even every large event, but so far.. it is something that happens several times a year.. and that is just from what's been reported to me. So far, in my experience tracking down injuries and incidents.. a good bit of stuff doesn't get reported and/or not reported up the chain. That's something I worked hard on changing, but that's a different subject.
To answer Sir Richard, unfortunately this is something that I do know as fact. I did not mention names, since several of the incidents that were reported to me.. the person responsible was tracked down and was "corrected". So, on the marshallate side of things it was handled at the event. In my personal opinion, the response/punishment was not sufficient in several of the cases, but there are a lot of different marshalling styles and ways to deal with x..
One of the biggest problems with handling this problem is trying to track down the party involved, even harder when they aren't wearing a household tabard or personal arms.
There were a couple of incidents that concerned me more, because the archer involved knew the person that struck them, but refused to give that person's name. These were witnessed by other fighters and/or at least one marshal.. but they did not know the fighter's name and/or get a clear enough view of his armor to later identify him, but they did see the white belt.
I've tried to write this part several times.. and I just spent the last hour on it.. all time that I really need to spend fixing stuff so I can leave for Gulf Wars.. I'll try to sum this up.. then I can answer specific question.. or hopefully explain this better when I get back from Gulf wars..
Perhaps we should start a new thread with any further discussions on this..
Anyway.. I had/have no intention to put down the chivalry in general. I mentioned it.. because those individual knights and masters that I know would not do this.. most would be appalled.. and would do their best to try and fix the situation. I thought this would be a good time/place to bring this up.. since I strongly believe that "peer" pressure will have a much better and longer lasting effect than anything the marshallate can do with this.
Basically, people need to understand that this is not accepted behavior, that it's not "cool" or "just" to inentionally break anyone's equipment.. even "if" that person is "just an archer". I've heard fighters laugh about how many arrows/bolts they broke that day.. and I've heard other accounts of a fighter bragging when they broke a crossbow.. In one instance the fighter broke at least 3 crossbows. I find it appalling. I don't know which is worse, that the fighter believes this is accepted behavior.. or that the people that he talks to, apparently agree and/or condone his actions.
There seems to be a growing movement.. and in many areas, other fighters will even correct or stop other fighters from intentionally breaking bows, arrows, etc.. I would love to see that grow. That peer pressure, IMO is the best way to counter problems with fighters being intentionally struck after they yielded or in an attempt to injure them (the words quoted to me.. was "hurt them badly enough that they can't continue to fight". Another quote "we are doing our job if that archer is hurt so badly that they won't ever have the nerve to take the field again". Last quote "our job is to take out the archers, if we break their crossbows then they won't be taking the field for the rest of the day, at least. So, it's the best way to take out the archers."
Basically, I'm pointing out the problem. I would be happy to hear some solutions, especially in the cases where we can't track down the specific fighter involved.
On the archer side of it.. we've worked hard on teaching our archers .. the ones who yield not to stop in the middle of that fighter's path and yield, step to the side, kneel.. fall down.. I've started training archers of when they die, when they know they have no place to go etc.. since many of us don't yield any more.. right before the fighter gets to you, drop your bow/crossbow down to your side. In my experience, the vast majority of fighters will happily take that open head shot that you just gave them. It means your bow/crossbow is out of their target zones (since meany of us train to take those open head shots).. and on a personal level I would much rather get struck in the head then on my shoulder or arm where I only wear elbows (society minimums). There seems to be a growing number of fighters when they run across the archer (who did not yield, they basically conceded), who's not running.. and obviousily not attempting to shoot them (more often the archer is either out of missiles or caught flat footed).. and that fighter will give them a courtesy tap. I personally think that is awesome. I happily take that as a kill, but if someone hits me harder, that is fine too.. IMO, if I'm caught flat footed and you give me a courtesy tap, that is very nice.. but not something that someone is required to do. I'll cut off this tangent here. LOL>. Moving our bow/crossbow out of the way, results in less issues and problems, IMO.
Anyway, I hope that helps clear up some of it. Sir mrks, FWIW, I'm not aware of any incidents in An Tir.. although there may have been one at a west/An tir war 2 or 3 years ago. I'm trying not to list the ones that happened more than 3 years ago, especially ones that I can vouch for personally (i.e. happened to me), since that happened many years ago.. and in the past couple of years.. I've had no issues personally.. MY personal experience, as a full contact archer .. I've had less issues and problems then I did when I was non-contact or 10 foot call dead.. and it seems more respect from the average fighter. Well, a good number seem happier that they can hit me, even if though many times I've just gotten a courtesy tap from them.
Feel free to contact me directly with specific questions. I really need to get back to Gulf wars prep and finsihing stuf up before I leave.
Tessa
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Well, His Highness Malcolm did take great delight and saying how he was going to personally tell my guard how to protect me.. I believe his exact words were something about not letting them get within striking range.. and taking great delight in that, since he knows I'm planning on training with a spear for those non ca battles at pennsic. I just reminded him that I will be using my bow in those Ca battles 
I expect that I'll have a huge target on my head, especially in those CA battles, so someone "may" get close enough to hit me.. Of course that does depend on how protective my household gets, too..
Tessa
You mean you think folks are really gonna get the CHANCE to hit you Your Highness?
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I expect that I'll have a huge target on my head, especially in those CA battles, so someone "may" get close enough to hit me..
Of course that does depend on how protective my household gets, too..
Tessa
You mean you think folks are really gonna get the CHANCE to hit you Your Highness?
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Sir Bryce,
I did indeed strike down many of those that stood against me and mine, but I did so with the gentleness each seemed to ask of me, some seemed to need less gentleness than others. There were some men at arms, some were archers, some (well at least one) were royals. I do not ask your bounty but I do thank you for this thread and grand fun it was.
I did indeed strike down many of those that stood against me and mine, but I did so with the gentleness each seemed to ask of me, some seemed to need less gentleness than others. There were some men at arms, some were archers, some (well at least one) were royals. I do not ask your bounty but I do thank you for this thread and grand fun it was.
Lachlann MacNiall,
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Paraphrased: we are men of action, lies and politics do not become us.
BdeB wrote:Any word on my challenge?
Hmmm. I don't know who killed me but I died from an *extremely* gentle spear tap during the fourth field battle (the friendship battle, so it had to be one of the allies that killed me), and from a firm shot to my helm (thanks for the kindness!) during one of the fort battles.
I'm guessing that all the times I died to the Trimarian archers don't count for the bounty.
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what were you wearing in the field battle?
I had a bunch surrender to me at spear point dunring the field battles. I just touched one that wasn't paying attention during the friendship battle. The fighter said something like "didn't see ya, tnanks for not blowing my head off"
I have no desire to hurt most people on the field. KILL the archers don't HURT the archers.
I know i killed/10 footed 9 or so archers for sure. Probably more. I did a ton of running on the field battels.
As an aside, i'm between 5'6 and 5'9" depending on what convience store i'm leaving, i have short legs and only ran about a 8 min mile at my best. I wear a fairly complete trasitional harness, and wear turnshoes.
That being said... you people run like turtles out there. I chased down and killed so many harriers/skirmishers/ goobers that thought they were conan it was sad. Even sadder had they stood and fought me they'd have probably won, i'm bad out of practice.
Oh and whoever ran into the fort while running from me, sorry dude. Look foward, not at me, and listen to the marshal when he's yelling look out.
My only guess is that most were newbies who didn't know that you stay alive longer in a unit. But i know at leat 2 were Squiers.
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Blood guard!!! You guys are a blast to fight! I love fighting yall! Hard fast tough fighting but yall called everything clean from my POV. I've looked for yall in field battles since Pensic 28 or so, a geat fight. You have yet to dissapoint.
I had a bunch surrender to me at spear point dunring the field battles. I just touched one that wasn't paying attention during the friendship battle. The fighter said something like "didn't see ya, tnanks for not blowing my head off"
I have no desire to hurt most people on the field. KILL the archers don't HURT the archers.
I know i killed/10 footed 9 or so archers for sure. Probably more. I did a ton of running on the field battels.
As an aside, i'm between 5'6 and 5'9" depending on what convience store i'm leaving, i have short legs and only ran about a 8 min mile at my best. I wear a fairly complete trasitional harness, and wear turnshoes.
That being said... you people run like turtles out there. I chased down and killed so many harriers/skirmishers/ goobers that thought they were conan it was sad. Even sadder had they stood and fought me they'd have probably won, i'm bad out of practice.
Oh and whoever ran into the fort while running from me, sorry dude. Look foward, not at me, and listen to the marshal when he's yelling look out.
My only guess is that most were newbies who didn't know that you stay alive longer in a unit. But i know at leat 2 were Squiers.
OH YEAH
Blood guard!!! You guys are a blast to fight! I love fighting yall! Hard fast tough fighting but yall called everything clean from my POV. I've looked for yall in field battles since Pensic 28 or so, a geat fight. You have yet to dissapoint.
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Murdock wrote:what were you wearing in the field battle?
An Ansteorran war tabard and a big smile.
I'm 4'11", fairly round, and my brown coat of plates was hidden under the tabard. I carry a small crossbow.
As for staying with a unit, I had attached myself to Sir Azrek of Trimaris, a really big guy with a really big Varangian Guard shield, who was standing beside a large Ansteorran and an even larger Trimarian. The Queen of Trimaris joined me behind this most excellent shield wall. I was looking for a target up front, hard to do when you're my height and the shields are side-by-side and you can't see over them... I had slipped to the left to peek around the edge when I felt the ever-so-polite tapping of the spear.
And I think I said something incredibly clever, such as, "Are y'all on my side?" as I stared at the row of gentlemen with spears pointed at me. Then I realized that even though I didn't recognize any of their heraldry at first glance, that I was certainly clearly marked and easily identifiable. I would have been the one of the ones laughing as I left the field.
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Greetings upon this day do I, HL Morgan Buchanan, Centurion of Ansteorra send greetings. I do this day come to this place to tell you of my deeds in furtherance of your challenge.
During the ravine battle, after all of the flag points were awarded, we were told that ressurections were no longer an option and we would fight the battle to the last man standing. When diverse groups of my side did finally dispatch those brave Atlantians on our right flank, I did make my way across and down into the center of the ranks of Trimarins. I did find myself standing between two archers who were emplaced behind thier own line, hard pressed. Each of these gentles did ready their bows to fire, but they took note of my peacable pose between them and took the time to inquire as to my wellbeing. I replied, "I'm doing quite well. However, I'm one of them." as I pointed to the Ansteorran line that was about to break through thier lines. They both smiled and laughed, resheathed their arrows, and did quit the field in good humor, with no blows being necessary.
Should it come to pass that I'm able to make the journey this August, should war break out, which somehow appears likely, I will seek you out, but primarily to shake your hand in brotherhood.
Your Brother in Arms,
Morgan Buchanan
Squire to Earl Duncan Arthur Ross "The Black"
Centurion of Ansteorra
During the ravine battle, after all of the flag points were awarded, we were told that ressurections were no longer an option and we would fight the battle to the last man standing. When diverse groups of my side did finally dispatch those brave Atlantians on our right flank, I did make my way across and down into the center of the ranks of Trimarins. I did find myself standing between two archers who were emplaced behind thier own line, hard pressed. Each of these gentles did ready their bows to fire, but they took note of my peacable pose between them and took the time to inquire as to my wellbeing. I replied, "I'm doing quite well. However, I'm one of them." as I pointed to the Ansteorran line that was about to break through thier lines. They both smiled and laughed, resheathed their arrows, and did quit the field in good humor, with no blows being necessary.
Should it come to pass that I'm able to make the journey this August, should war break out, which somehow appears likely, I will seek you out, but primarily to shake your hand in brotherhood.
Your Brother in Arms,
Morgan Buchanan
Squire to Earl Duncan Arthur Ross "The Black"
Centurion of Ansteorra
to find out if anyone else did wonderous deeds.