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Vitus wrote:It's never clean. Never has been and never will be.

Such optimism.

Gavin

Realism.

My thanks to any and all that asked about :
1. on the second field battle one fighter was standing on Argh of Black Talon's war board while dead poking him in his helm until he threw him off. It was all forgotten but he asked by 4-5 people if he wanted something done. That was nice to be asked.

2. For the marshalls that caught the group or the some of that group that was thusting Black Talon shield men w/o thusting tips on 1st or 2nd fieldbattle.

It was nice just to be asked.

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3. If in the castle battle on the west causeway I hit you more than once with my PoleAxe while you were dead. Sorry about that it was a real meat grinder.

All and all I think it was my best Pennsic for fighting 1.9 to 1 what fun.

Seamus Og
of Black Talon

As always, there were bad folks on both sides; things that some folks on the Eastern side did that either I saw personally, or happened to fighters in my unit (who are not given to hyperbole) included:

resurrections in non-res battles

I wasnt keeping track of that so I cant comment.

shrugging face thrusts that staggered the recipient backwards, and body thrusts that either drove them to the ground or launched them off their feet (usually either accidental, or after shrugging repeated blows of a more reasonable calibration)

That whole light light excessive stuff usually lands us in marshalls court. How did you circumvent that? I'd like to know for next year.

intentionally (by their own admission) delivering excessive face thrusts to opponents they'd not faced before

Sometimes people just dont die to anything else.

shrugging arrows to the face, and ballistas to the body

There was this purple knight on the top bridge in the last bridge battle. I ran down and stabbed him in the chest pretty hard with my spear. He took the three steps back to the line and continued fighting. This is the same knight that a few minutes later got hit by a ballista bolt, turned and bitched out the marshal then led the charge that took out the ballista.

striking a powerful blow without proper engagement

Actually the one time I got surrounded by reds they put their spears ON me, I acknowledged their kill and walked off. They did fine.

general poor blow acknowledgment (from a couple of units in particular, and no, not the Tuchux, who I found to be fine adversaries the times I found myself across from them).

Thanks. We train real hard and police ourselves pretty hard when it comes to that. We dont like the thoughts that people would paint us with the rhino hide brush.

I do have to say that this was the worst war I can remember when it comes to the red guys blowing off obvious shots. It happened so much to me that I changed the spear for a saber. After that I only had a couple of problems but the idea that they had the numbers in such an overwhelming capacity and STILL cheated was disheartening to say the least. I guess they hold their honor cheaply or something. I dunno.

It's kind of disheartning to see a thread about Acts of Chivalry at Pennsic devolve again into "This guy/group/kingdom cheated".

Let's face it - NO individual or group is going to go through Pennsic 100% clean. It just isn't going to happen. Guys I fought this year didn't take shots I thought were good. It happens. I probably missed a blow at some point that someone else though was good. That happens too. ESPECIALLY at Pennsic. We got 18 Kingdoms and maybe 4 - 6 non-SCA groups on the field at once - I'm personally surprised it isn't a hell of a lot WORSE. Especially when the odds suck like they did - I heard the SAME thing said about Pennsic 32, when the situation was flipped.

And what does it REALLY matter? Not a damn bit.

Let me relate 2 stories from the woods battle:

First Story -

Me and mine were involved in a press, and ran across the Tuchux (yep - I'm certain it was - Minimal is hard to mistake). I hooked the top edge of some dogs shield and pulled it forward - and he predictably yanked it back, so I let the point slide right into his grill - I get probably a dozen kills every Pennsic with that move. He didn't take it. I said "No good to the grill?" and he basically told me to get bent (in more colorful terms). Call it the heat of battle, but I got a little steamed.

Then it dawned on me - It was about 11:30 on a Tuesday afternoon. On any other Tuesday, I would be chained to a desk, waiting for some conference call I didn't give a shit about to end.

Suddenly, some dog not taking a shot wasn't THAT big a deal. I was in the Woods Battle, fighting a storm and having a ball! So I moved on, kept fighting - killed a couple of dogs and eventually, that dog that missed the face thrust and I both died in some exchange. We halped each other up and went back to res.

And it was a great fight.


Second Story -

Later in the woods, I got pulled to lend spear support to a unit. I jogged up, and saw a spearman with Eastrealm Northern Army colors get his spear caught on a tree trying to bring it to bear. So, I gutted him - clean, face to face engagement. And he WENT OFF - screaming and yelling about cheap shots and cheating and calling me everything except brother. Before I could even begin to talk to him, the REST of the fighters in his line (from Lochac and Caid) let him HAVE it. Reminding him that it was a res battle, joking that the sneaky Midrealm Knight must have planted the tree YEARS ago for just this moment, etc.....

He stomped off, still pissed, and the fighters in BLUE tape laughed him off.

And the great fight we had continued (until the King of Lochac decided I need to go get some water, and a good head shot was the best way to remind me!).

The purpose of these stories?


People on both sides have to remember that it isn't that Pennsic War is a community activity - it has more in common socially with a church softball league than a REAL WAR. And frankly, if I ever find myself treating it like a real war, I'll walk away, thank you....

It's just a game, guys. A glorious, one of a kind, big-ass-adreniline-rush-most-fun-you-can-have-with-your-clothes-on-game, but a game none the less. You don't WIN anything, really. Some of my best memories are from battle I LOST. I didn't lose land, life, money, or anything tangible. You don't LOSE anything - all you can do is win. Win Honor, glory, and some stories than in a year, most people won't recall.

At least not accurately - but that's part of the fun too!

Dilan

Animal Weretiger wrote:As always, there were bad folks on both sides; things that some folks on the Eastern side did that either I saw personally, or happened to fighters in my unit (who are not given to hyperbole) included:

Koredono wrote::arrow: resurrections in non-res battles

I wasnt keeping track of that so I cant comment.

I didn't see it happen personally, but several of my guys reported it to me after the battle; I told them they should have pointed it out a marshal, so at least they could keep an eye out for that kind of thing, even if they weren't willing to toss the accused individuals out of that particular battle.

Animal Weretiger wrote:

Koredono wrote::arrow: shrugging face thrusts that staggered the recipient backwards, and body thrusts that either drove them to the ground or launched them off their feet (usually either accidental, or after shrugging repeated blows of a more reasonable calibration)

That whole light light excessive stuff usually lands us in marshalls court. How did you circumvent that? I'd like to know for next year.

AFAIK none of the recipients complained to the marshals, and in the middle of a meatgrinder (i.e. the bridge and the causeway) it's really hard to get the attention of the marshals to have anything done about it when you're engaged in combat.

Animal Weretiger wrote:

Koredono wrote: intentionally (by their own admission) delivering excessive face thrusts to opponents they'd not faced before

Sometimes people just dont die to anything else.

True, but you shouldn't start off an engagement with that type of blow, expecially with someone you have not past personal history with, and the people who received them are definitely not the type who shrug reasonable face thrusts

Animal Weretiger wrote:

Koredono wrote::arrow: shrugging arrows to the face, and ballistas to the body

There was this purple knight on the top bridge in the last bridge battle. I ran down and stabbed him in the chest pretty hard with my spear. He took the three steps back to the line and continued fighting. This is the same knight that a few minutes later got hit by a ballista bolt, turned and bitched out the marshal then led the charge that took out the ballista.

Sadly, all too common. Some years ago I had a very similar problem on a bridge with an opposing duke, wherein I got killed before he chose to fall down; luckily, I bitched about it withn hearing of a more 'senior' duke, who went over and bitched out the 'junior' duke. That alone made it worth it to me.

Animal Weretiger wrote:

Koredono wrote: striking a powerful blow without proper engagement

Actually the one time I got surrounded by reds they put their spears ON me, I acknowledged their kill and walked off. They did fine.

That would be fine, I agree, but I'm talking about running up behind somone, when you're not engaged with their line, and creasing them as they're running, before getting into their opponent's field of vision.

Animal Weretiger wrote:

Koredono wrote::arrow: general poor blow acknowledgment (from a couple of units in particular, and no, not the Tuchux, who I found to be fine adversaries the times I found myself across from them).

Thanks. We train real hard and police ourselves pretty hard when it comes to that. We dont like the thoughts that people would paint us with the rhino hide brush.

Well, to be honest, like every other large group (including ones I'm a member of), the Tuchux have their assholes too, and I've had my share of run-ins with some of them in the past, but over the past few years those incidents seem to be fewer and less radical, and this year at Pennsic I had none at all.

Animal Weretiger wrote:I do have to say that this was the worst war I can remember when it comes to the red guys blowing off obvious shots. It happened so much to me that I changed the spear for a saber. After that I only had a couple of problems but the idea that they had the numbers in such an overwhelming capacity and STILL cheated was disheartening to say the least. I guess they hold their honor cheaply or something. I dunno.

I can't speak for anyone else fighting on the Middle's side, but I know that AEthelmearc was strongly encouraged (by the Crown and the Warlord) to be particularly careful of calibration, and take, if it came to it, lighter than normal shots, mostly because on top of everything else, there's no reason to be a jerk when you've got a 2::1 numerical advantage to start. There wasn't a lot the individual fighter could do about the numbers disparity, but they could comport themselves to try and make the situation as fun as possible for everyone involved, and I think we did that.

i agree with everything things being said here. its all true and we know it. even if i have only been in the society for a year, i have seen both te good and the bad in the battles at pensic. but i would like to say huba to the eastern fighters that i shot in the mountain pass battle. in my first combat archery battle i shot at least 32 of you guys, and had no problems what so ever. i killed one fighter at least 4 times, and did he ever get bent about it. nope not once. he was annoied of course, but he accepted every shot, and went back to res. you guys showed honor on that field, and let me have a bunch of fun.

Well I had an absolutly great time. Hay Irish - good to see that I could help out with the water thing...
The commradery in all the fighting was a joy to be a part of.

Cornelius
(Lochac R.)

Hey there Charles the Brown.
Do you fight as well as shoot arrows at people? If so, come to Louisville- I would love to give you some lessons. Since you are new and all...

CtB: "i shot at least 32 of you guys..."

OK, this isn't directed at Charles, but 32?! I don't know of many dukes that are this effective. I think the most I ever claimed in a single Pennsic battle was 4 (and I was a prince and near the top of my game -- with a couple of very burly, scary knights at my back for insurance). Though IMnsHO, killing the same guy four times just adds to the "bad press" combat archers enjoy in general. I guess I should just be glad that I'm not in this for the body count... AoC

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carlyle wrote:

CtB: "i shot at least 32 of you guys..."

OK, this isn't directed at Charles, but 32?! I don't know of many dukes that are this effective. I think the most I ever claimed in a single Pennsic battle was 4 (and I was a prince and near the top of my game -- with a couple of very burly, scary knights at my back for insurance). Though IMnsHO, killing the same guy four times just adds to the "bad press" combat archers enjoy in general. I guess I should just be glad that I'm not in this for the body count... AoC

Um, I've never done combat archery in a major battle yet, but 32 isnt that big of a deal when I take my spear out. Especially in a res battle.

hey vitus, yes i do fight as well. im up here in barony fenix. im known by several names, charles the brown is one recently given to me by baron christoph, uncles have a way of trying to embaress their nephews. ill be at fenixs baronial championships, you should come and play!

I guess I should just be glad that I'm not in this for the body count... AoC[/quote]


believe me i wasnt out there to rack up kills, i was just out there having fun, heck i had no idea i would shoot that well! and the guy i got 4 times, i didnt realize that it was the same dude until after i shot him. i felt bad about making him walk back so much, but he was still a sport about it. im not in the game for the kill count, but for the fun. whats the point of a game if you dont have fun?

I'll try my best to be there.

In reply to the prior posting:

"My thanks to any and all that asked about :
1. on the second field battle one fighter was standing on Argh of Black Talon's war board while dead poking him in his helm until he threw him off. It was all forgotten but he asked by 4-5 people if he wanted something done. That was nice to be asked."

I know of the event you were talking about. The person who was jumping on the downed fighter was disiplined and was sorry for the action. He lost his temper and over reacted. He voluntarily told me of the event within a minute of it and pulled no punches on the story. (I later heard the story from a marshal that witnessed the event.)

While he over reacted this is his side of it. He was fighting and had just passed a small group of fighters who were on the ground and appeared dead. One of the fighters kneeled up and hit him hard and low. (the blow hit him in the shin) The blow came out of nowhere and the rest of the story you already know. As I was in the group that first engaged your company I know that your group of fighters was pushed to the ground by a shield charge. I remeber taping several people as I passed telling them to "just relax for a minute". I knew they were not "dead" but at this point they appeared to be. This is a grey area. The problem here is no one following us could have known your fighters were still alive. In my opinion you need to regain acknowledgment in this situation. Get up on your knees or stand up if your able in front of some other fighters. At least warn other fighters you are still alive. DO NOT throw a blow from the ground at a fighter who has not even seen you.

I know this is a grey area. Some would argue line engagement. None the less, when in doubt, let's error on the side of caution.

Lastly, the above story is no excuse for the bad behavior. It has been dealt with.

Tascius

carlyle wrote:

CtB: "i shot at least 32 of you guys..."

OK, this isn't directed at Charles, but 32?! I don't know of many dukes that are this effective. I think the most I ever claimed in a single Pennsic battle was 4 (and I was a prince and near the top of my game -- with a couple of very burly, scary knights at my back for insurance). Though IMnsHO, killing the same guy four times just adds to the "bad press" combat archers enjoy in general. I guess I should just be glad that I'm not in this for the body count... AoC

chuckle. I'm always amazed by people who can keep count. I go out, I fight, I try to hit other people and not get hit myself. Eventually, I either have to fall down because they hit me, or they end the combat. Between the start and the finish, I may recall clearly a couple of especially memorable exchanges, but I'll be damned if I ever know how many I "killed"

'sides.. Dukes usually don't get that many kills - it's the guy next to the Duke who really gets to rack 'em up

Gavin

carlyle wrote:IMnsHO, killing the same guy four times just adds to the "bad press" combat archers enjoy in general. I guess I should just be glad that I'm not in this for the body count... AoC

Only 4 times? That's nothing. At last year's Gulf Wars, in the ravine, I got shot at least 30 times (it's usually about 10)(I stopped counting at 30). Afterward, I found out that a former resident of my Barony, who had moved, told all the archers on the other side to just shoot me whenever I came up to the line.

Instead of a battle, I got a nice walk in the woods. We won anyway.

I do rather wonder how an archer would feel to be hunted in such a manner.

(I suppose I should mention that I fight primarily spear there, and am in the business of taking ground. In a res battle for banners, there's no point to sparing my body.)

Sigh.

Thus my Gulf Wars Challange.

*Lachlenn! I owe you something, send me your address!*

raito wrote:I do rather wonder how an archer would feel to be hunted in such a manner.

I am an archer when appropriate, and I wear bright red armor with big horns on my helmet. Think you get shot at a lot? I consider it a compliment and am investing in pavises (sp) A big shout out to the Confed and Tuchuk archers who riddled me with bolts during the war.

Nissan,
were your guys wearing red tape this year ? If so I think most of you ran over me in the woods battle
One of those moments when you realize that sometimes its bad to be the only effective spear in your line. If it wasnt ya'll ( I did not see your harness for example) they sure moved right through the hodgepodge line I was part of in a similiar fashion

PM sent to BdeB

We were indeed wearing red tape this year. We were hired by Gabriel's Landing Tavern as a gift fir Aethelmark. I ended up separated from my troops a lot this year as I have developed a bad habit of outrunning my support.

raito wrote:

carlyle wrote:IMnsHO, killing the same guy four times just adds to the "bad press" combat archers enjoy in general. I guess I should just be glad that I'm not in this for the body count... AoC

Only 4 times? That's nothing. At last year's Gulf Wars, in the ravine, I got shot at least 30 times (it's usually about 10)(I stopped counting at 30). Afterward, I found out that a former resident of my Barony, who had moved, told all the archers on the other side to just shoot me whenever I came up to the line.

Instead of a battle, I got a nice walk in the woods. We won anyway.

I had a similar experience in the Ravine last year myself - I found out after the battle that the unit were up against (don't know the name, all I remember is that they were from Ansteorra) was the same unit we'd fought against the previous day (res battle; town perhaps?) and they'd decided I was one of the four dangerous guys who should be killed at every opportunity; unfortuneately for me, two were from a different unit and on the opposite of the battle, and the third decided to stay in his hotel room with his wife in the hot tub. While I don't think I was shot 30 times, it was at least 20, and only twice by a hand-to-hand weapon.

So I turned into a messenger between the warlord and the local front commander, getting a little bit of fighting in between deaths.

raito wrote:I do rather wonder how an archer would feel to be hunted in such a manner.

Given how any archer I've ever killed in melee reacts (I got a couple the year before in the Ravine, and one this year on the Bridge at Pennsic), rather poorly at best, I expect.

Well, FWIW, I've had a bounty put on my head many times. IMO, it should be a sign of how effective you are. It does get old quickly.. but then I already teach all of the new archers that I work with.. and the older ones.. to spread out their kills.

Sometimes it's hard to resist that spearman who keeps coming back to the same exact spot, without going behind a shieldman I've found that when I notice that I've killed the same guy several times, in a fairly short time (i.e. if I notice that I'm shooting the same person).. I'll team up with one of spearmen.. and I'll be the distraction.

I'm all about having fun. I'll taunt people (good natured).. or otherwise distract them.. and the spear guy that I'm working with will get the kill. If the sides are not balanced.. I'll find some new fighter (or fairly new).. and tell him what to do.. and how far apart and what angle he needs to be away from me.. sometimes these are sword and shield guys.. and again, I'll be the distraction.. and he'll get some kills. I've helped made their war (which I've found to be way cool). One guy said it was the first time in over a decade of working in a shieldwall that he got a kill (in that type of battle).

I've been doing this long enough, where yes I thoroughly enjoy getting my kills, but I also want to try and make certain it's fun for as many people as possible. I want my side to win.. but it's more fun (IMO) if it's a hard fought victory. So, if I'm getting kills too easily (all IMO).. I'll either start taking limbs or more often team up with another heavy fighter and assist him in getting kills. It tends to slow down the number of kills or assists that I get.. but it will also tie up the shield wall.

Usually, my goal is to help my side win. My second goal is to help protect my guys. That means if there's a "spear god" out there gigging my guys.. or another archer pegging them.. I'll do my best to kill them, help kill them or at least neutralize them.

I've had half of an army be assigned the mission just to kill me.. I've had a "bounty" put on my head of a 12 pack of beer for every time I was killed in a battle. This was effective for the day. I'll admit it annoyed me at first, especially since the King who did this, tricked me into following him over to his side, then held my helm over his head (a couple of feet above mine, so well out of reach).. and pointed out who i was and what I was wearing for armor.

I died quickly in the field battle. But I expected that.. so I made certain the guys on the other side saw me.. and I sent the rest of our archers to the opposite side. I also ran as far as I could, as quickly as I could (back when I could run really fast, LOL) so all of the guys who chased me down (1/3 to 1/2 of their army), at least had a long walk back (grin).

Then I realized the next battle was a resurrection woods battle.. I never said I was nice did I?? So everytime I died.. and I was near a resurrection point, I made certain the other guys saw me. I swear I died at least a dozen times each time. LOL.. I was told it took him 3 years to pay off all of the beer.

I just know that he never put a bounty on my head again.. but I've had other people do it.

FWIW, I've found that if I get killed a lot by the same person, especially in the same battle.. having a nice conversation with them (even when it is hard at times to keep your good humor and be a good sport), you can mention that it's not fun to be targeted that much.. and if you ask.. most people will spread out their kills more.

I've had someone ask me to do that before.. and that's when I realized that "spreading" my kills is more fair.. and more fun for all. IMO, this is a learning curve, that most fighters eventually learn. Sometimes it takes longer for archers to learn and realize.. but often we don't get to fight in as many battles.. and when the archers don't often (or ever) fight with the rest of the heavy fighters, it's harder to pick up on this stuff. Archers just being another part of the army, tends to help them pick up on this.

I'm long winded as always..

Tessa

Regina

Nissan Maxima wrote:We were indeed wearing red tape this year. We were hired by Gabriel's Landing Tavern as a gift fir Aethelmark. I ended up separated from my troops a lot this year as I have developed a bad habit of outrunning my support.

You may not have been there but you should be proud of your guys all the same, they hit hard and moved quick. One of them gave me a very polite and firm strike in the ribs as I was tryin to get out of their way and stick a few with my spear at the same time. The one I managed to touch called a real light shot that I told him to ignore. He grinned asked if I was sure and went on his merry way when I said yes.

The most inspiring thing I saw at the war this year was Her Majesty of Northshield, Fina, waterbearing in the woods, resplendant and gracious.

i had a great time at pennsic this year.

i saw nobody cheat or shrug blows (i cant judge what doesnt hit me)

i got hit hard a few times, i was targetted to nausiating extents by archers but only got shot once (and it was a skillfull shot during a res battle which was cool)

only had to get involved with one guy losing his mind (a tuchux mad at the way an sca guy was trying to get him to fight or move out of the way. he was standing there doing nothing with his spear but i felt the other guy handled things poorly. then the tuchux guy starts witht he yelling and shoving the other guy in the back cursing at him. i was dead so i grabbed him and told him it wasnt worth it and to calm down. took a sec but he did so all was well. spoke to the marshals that tried to get involved and the fighting continued)

saw a lot of people from the aa that i had not met yet. that was cool.

was lucky enough to win my champions fight despite my poor performance.

had one of my squires win the squires tourney (3 of the last 4 were my guys so i was kinda proud of that)

was very impressed with the improvement in kits overall (biggest improvment i saw was with the tuchux, most of their guys looked far better than the average one year sca guy. some better than the ten year sca guy.)

i saw lots of guys outnumbered that fought like heroes and didnt bitch and moan about being outnumbered. saw some guys fight well but cry like children because they were outnumbered. but then again i like to fight and have never cared about how many guys i get to fight.

i did get to take hrm of the east off the bridge so he and i could talk and watch the battle unfold....... twice.......

got to run the line during the mountain pass battle and lead my unit down the backfield taking out all but one ballista in the first 30 seconds of the battle (the one was pulled back off the field when its commander saw my unit turn at the top of the field and start taking out the other engines). then watched as hrm of the middle thanked ealdomere for taking out the siege engines......

got to sit and talk with paul for a while in my camp



all in all it was a good pennsic, weather was nice, lots of people came by my camp, i actually went out to two parties (although i really didnt like them) while there, great neighbors, met some new friends. oh, and i got to fight a bunch too. not bad for a two week vacation.

regards
logan

only had to get involved with one guy losing his mind (a tuchux mad at the way an sca guy was trying to get him to fight or move out of the way. he was standing there doing nothing with his spear but i felt the other guy handled things poorly. then the tuchux guy starts witht he yelling and shoving the other guy in the back cursing at him. i was dead so i grabbed him and told him it wasnt worth it and to calm down. took a sec but he did so all was well. spoke to the marshals that tried to get involved and the fighting continued)

The Tuchux in question had a right to be angry. The last thing anyone needs is some idiot pushing them in the back in the middle of a combat. Although there was a lot of pushing and shoving in that blasted heat, and the Calontir scutums turned the whole assault into a massive traffic jam that forced the marshalls to call a ton of holds, there's no excuse for that sort of thing. The situation in question, however, was defused deftly by Logan and Valharic. I know this because the guy that pushed him was me.

After the initial fracas I think the Tuchux, who I never did get a name from, seemed to calm down quickly. After Valharic wisely pulled me out of the line I apologized to the Tuchux and the battle was resumed. The disruption was all over in under thirty seconds and we got back to the business at hand. Still, it shouldn't have happened in the first place and it was my fault it did.

Which I thouroughly enjoyed completing!

BdeB wrote:Sigh.

Thus my Gulf Wars Challange.

*Lachlenn! I owe you something, send me your address!*

Hey logan how did your meeting go on wed with the merc groups ..

none of them showed. in fact, not many people showed at all.

i think its all just way too much going on that late in the week, people get tired, hot, busy. shame though as i had a lot to discuss....

regards
logan

Kaliban wrote:Hey logan how did your meeting go on wed with the merc groups ..

I had an awesome time at Pennsic. For the first time ever, my wife came. This made a world of difference to me. I have been to thirteen Pennsic Wars so far, and I have never enjoyed it as much as when my wife was there.

I fought my thousand fights, and it sucked, in exactly the right way. I think that I was expecting too much of it. I was not transformed into a knightly, spiffy, giving and charitable dude in the space of four days, but it certainly was a "Character Building Experience". It hurt like hell in exactly the right way. I had hundreds of excellent fighters come out and give up thier time and effort to help, and I got to fight some of the most noble fighters to ever walk the field. I got to receive lessons on Knightly Behavior on the Field from some of the best. I didn't meet a single ego monster. A bunch of excellent fighters volunteered to get up early on monday morning (8 AM) so that the quest would get off to a good start. Master Feral opened the field early. Everbody, and I mean everybody, was supportive, helpful, and giving. I saw Pennsic war at it's very, very best, and I really feel blessed.

After that, I was kinda "fought out", but I did manage to make the causeway and the woods. In both battles, I had a really cool thing happen. My old stateside household (the Shadow Legion out of the memphis area), My kingdom (Drachenwald), my mundane brother (Redrick) and most of my pennsic buddies were all on the same side. We were hopelessly outnumbered, and there was very little hope of actually winning. We were always facing impossible odds, in desperate battles against some of the very best fighters, and I haven't had that much fun on the field in years. We died like heros, heaped in glory, under the spears of the walking gods of the SCA. It was great, to say the least.

I didn't see a single instance (not one) of thick skins, dehydration tempers, or ego monsters. Even the marshals and the waterbearers were great. Even the Tuchux wenches were friendly and helpful, and they are famous for being unforgiving.

Hell, even the pictures turned out good.

This was a really blessed war for me. I can't think of any way my field experience could have been better.

f

I have to say that I was very proud of Atlantia's Squires in the Squires Tourney. Of speacial note, Lords William, Shea and Rousel who went the distance with perhaps perfect behavior. (One more of Duke Logan's squires did equally well but I am sorry to say that I forgot who that was.
) No discussions, drama, or questionable tactics. My example of chivalry would be Lord Rousel who demanded a fight when given a by in the semi-finals.
Tascius (Tash)

Frieman wrote: I didn't see a single instance (not one) of thick skins, dehydration tempers, or ego monsters. Even the marshals and the waterbearers were great. Even the Tuchux wenches were friendly and helpful, and they are famous for being unforgiving.

This struck me as somewhat insulting. Would you explain what you meant by that please?

that would have been bryan killian. he did very well and was taken out by two of his squire brothers.

i was terribly proud of all of my guys. but i usually am.

regards
logan

Tascius wrote:I have to say that I was very proud of Atlantia's Squires in the Squires Tourney. Of speacial note, Lords William, Shea and Rousel who went the distance with perhaps perfect behavior. (One more of Duke Logan's squires did equally well but I am sorry to say that I forgot who that was.
) No discussions, drama, or questionable tactics. My example of chivalry would be Lord Rousel who demanded a fight when given a by in the semi-finals.
Tascius (Tash)