Gulf War Crash Course Training

Sextus Maximus · Post by **Sextus Maximus** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:13 pm

Due to real life the last two and half months has not allowed me to get some much needed practice as well as excersise to be prepared for the War presently. One great thing though I will be moving into my new house which will be 20 minutes from fighter practice. I have 9 local fighter practices before the war to get my skill back to where it was as well as getting back my muscle mass and losing about 5 pounds within 8 weeks approximatetly. I have weights and a safe place to run. I plan on endurance lifting and increasing my cardio. I am planning on getting a Pell ready and set up next week so I can do slow sword and shield drills for muscle control and endurance. I was wondering if there is anything else I could do to get me ready for the War? I know my time is very short and I dont know if I can accomplish my goals I have set, but I will be going to the War and I want to be as ready physicaly and mentaly as much as possible with the limited time that I have. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:52 pm

give nerf bows and arrows to every member of your family. Tell them to shoot you when ever they feel like it. Then try and dodge as meany as possible as often as possible for the next 8 weeks. :twisted:

SirCathal · Post by **SirCathal** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:12 pm

Nah ... Ansteorra is going to be on the same side with Trimaris this year ... so all the archers will be on Ronnin's side.

Maybe give your kids some boffer weapons and have them suprise you ... maybe call light a lot.

freiman the minstrel · Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:51 pm

you're gonna hate me.

run one day, bike the next.

repeat.

f

Maelgwyn · Post by **Maelgwyn** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:52 pm

Congrats on the new house! You missed melee practice last night but there will be more, starting with next Tuesday. 30 minutes of running 3 times/week will do wonders. Beyond that, review Duke Kein's paper on melee tactics and commands at http://www.io.com/~caladin/tactics.doc so you know what to do when Ysfael yells "Column right, follow me!"

Jean Paul de Sens · Post by **Jean Paul de Sens** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:06 pm

ronnin wrote:Due to real life the last two and half months has not allowed me to get some much needed practice as well as excersise to be prepared for the War presently. One great thing though I will be moving into my new house which will be 20 minutes from fighter practice. I have 9 local fighter practices before the war to get my skill back to where it was as well as getting back my muscle mass and losing about 5 pounds within 8 weeks approximatetly. I have weights and a safe place to run. I plan on endurance lifting and increasing my cardio. I am planning on getting a Pell ready and set up next week so I can do slow sword and shield drills for muscle control and endurance. I was wondering if there is anything else I could do to get me ready for the War? I know my time is very short and I dont know if I can accomplish my goals I have set, but I will be going to the War and I want to be as ready physicaly and mentaly as much as possible with the limited time that I have. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

Regarding the weight loss, the quick math is thus...

you've got around 56 days to lose 5 lbs, which is around 312.5 calories a day that you must use more than you consume.

Start by writing down what you eat. Using things like WW points are a good shortcut, but the calories matter. Figure out how many calories you need to consume to support your body weight . The FDA's rule of thumb is 12 calories per pound per day. so a 200 lb person must consume around 2400 calories a day to maintain his body weight (on average). Subtract off the amount of calories (312.5 in our calcs) from that, and you've got your daily target.

ghoststalker · Post by **ghoststalker** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:09 pm

how true, screw fancy diets and all these shortcuts to losing weight, just use more than you eat and you can eat ANYTHING.

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:17 pm

1. Put on armour.
2. Run up hill.
(Big hill.)
3. Walk back down.
4. Run up hill.
etc.

Repeat #'s 2-4 until you puke or faint.

Do this three times a week.

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:31 pm

Carry a shield and practice blocking arrows or put on your walking shoes.... :roll:

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:10 pm

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
CLASSIC!

This is why I no longer go to Gulf Wars.

Sextus Maximus · Post by **Sextus Maximus** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:17 pm

Thanks everyone for the advice. Seems like I am thinking in the same direction. Cardio is definitely the main focus then muscle endurance as well. What is good both go along with each other. I will be moving into my house in Phlugerville this week so I know for sure I will get a very good workout to start out getting ready for the War. I will definitely will be there next Tuesday.

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:33 pm

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
CLASSIC!

This is why I no longer go to Gulf Wars.

This is to bad. I want to clash swords with you sometime. BIG difference now from the last time we faced. :twisted:

I am no long a big slow clumsy fighter who doesn't know what he is doing. :twisted:

well.....I am still BIG. :shock:

Nissan Maxima · Post by **Nissan Maxima** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:46 pm

At some point soon I am going to try an experiment to see what would be required to protect someone from getting shot by combat archers and still be able to fight. I will use archers for counterfire and big guys with pavise.
Probably someone acting as secret service"take a bullet for ya" as well.

It will also require some cooperation from the protected noble. Please do not dash off unsupported into the fray sir,or you will void your warrenty.

It would be a great service product for some noble at gulf wars. I think it would take 10 guys to keep one safe.

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:04 pm

Insane Irish, I have absolutely no doubt that you have become something quite different. We will meet again. What is your current fave weapon style?

Duke Gunnar · Post by **Duke Gunnar** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:10 pm

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
CLASSIC!

This is why I no longer go to Gulf Wars.

I must confess, I'm not sure I understand your point. It would seem to be a slam on combat archery. I have been to most of the big wars across the known world, and while I have enjoyed them all I find Gulfwars to be the most fun. I don't like getting shot any more than the next guy but I do find that combat archery ads a nice element of realism. I would imagine the French at Agincort would share your opinion.

Back on topic. The key to any training program is consistency. I have seen a huge number of people try get it all done too quickly and burn out shortly there after. One of the things that helps me is that I view my training program as part of my work day. Work is not over until my training is done. I combine weight lifting, running and hitting the pell. I lift three days a week with the following schedule. Monday is chest and back. Tuesday is legs. Wednesday is shoulders and arms. For endurance training superset alternating muscle groups. As an example do a set of bench press and then immediately do a set of pull ups. I hit the pell after I my workout. I run 3-5 miles Monday through Thursday. Friday I rest. If there is an event on Saturday I fight there, otherwise I go to practice on Sunday. I used to try to fight twice a week but at 44 I find that I need a little more time to heal. I hope that helps.

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:47 pm

God keep your Grace.

I have absolutely no doubt that the French at Agincourt did what they always do- stayed up all night playing dice and drinking, and then the next morning ignoring orders after ten minutes in a mad dash for the banners that offered the most chance of rich ransoms.

I will not seek after chivalrous war at Gulf Wars, at least in the ravine (which was my favorite battle).

If it sounded like a slam against combat archery, that is because it was. I love the sinners, but I hate the sin. Neither arbalest nor longbow should have been at Crecy, Poitiers or Agincourt. Their presence there did not decide the true prowess of neither knight, squire and man-at-arms.

With respect-
Vitus, Knight

Back on topic. Train with a greater overall load than you bear in combat. Dig out that old, heavy butted chainmail shirt and go for a run in it.

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:21 pm

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:Insane Irish, I have absolutely no doubt that you have become something quite different. We will meet again. What is your current fave weapon style?

My current favorite is Greatsword. Unfortunately I feel that Sword and shield is my current best though.

I look forward to our next meet.

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:25 pm

Nissan Maxima wrote:It would be a great service product for some noble at gulf wars. I think it would take 10 guys to keep one safe.

Having been in this situation, I would say 4 sword and shieldmen is more than adiquate protection from Combat archers. Unless the archers are specifically gunning for you.

More times than not all you need are extra eyes to be able to watch for WHERE the archers are. I get killed more times by the archer I DON'T see than the archer I do.

Nissan Maxima · Post by **Nissan Maxima** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:33 pm

You may be right, but I am thinking of this as a service to a high value archer target such as a Monarch. I like the idea of some counter fire to clear the vicinity or make em keep their cowardly heads down.

Baron Alejandro · Post by **Baron Alejandro** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:48 pm

BdeB wrote:Carry a shield and practice blocking arrows or put on your walking shoes....

Frickin' whiner. :twisted:

Odo · Post by **Odo** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:16 pm

Nissan Maxima wrote:You may be right, but I am thinking of this as a service to a high value archer target such as a Monarch. I like the idea of some counter fire to clear the vicinity or make em keep their cowardly heads down.

I am going to give away a secret. It shouldn't be a secret but it is for some strange reason. The best way to protect a monarch from archers is to have better archers. Have your archers destory their archers, time and again.

Odo

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:54 pm

That certainly helps. We in the Midrealm are at a distinct disadvantage because of the restrictions on ammo. We use golf tubes or Omarad bolts, and they suck.

Richard Blackmoore · Post by **Richard Blackmoore** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:42 pm

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:1. Put on armour.
2. Run up hill.
(Big hill.)
3. Walk back down.
4. Run up hill.
etc.

Repeat #'s 2-4 until you puke or faint.

Do this three times a week.

Ahem...

REAL SCA knightly types continue steps 2-4 even after puking. That is why we all use bar grills and not closed face helms. But try to tell these young upstarts and do they believe you? No...

When I was young, we had to ride to Pennsic and back in the snow. Uphill, both ways.

Richard

Runs, ducks, hides...

Richard Blackmoore · Post by **Richard Blackmoore** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:45 pm

Nissan Maxima wrote:At some point soon I am going to try an experiment to see what would be required to protect someone from getting shot by combat archers and still be able to fight. I will use archers for counterfire and big guys with pavise.
Probably someone acting as secret service"take a bullet for ya" as well.

It will also require some cooperation from the protected noble. Please do not dash off unsupported into the fray sir,or you will void your warrenty.

It would be a great service product for some noble at gulf wars. I think it would take 10 guys to keep one safe.

I forget what they called it, maybe a turtle formation. But the Romans had something where they had scutms in front and overhead. Hard to get an arrow through that. Put your noble in the middle of one of these things and hand him a spear. Boring, but he'd be pretty safe.

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:52 pm

Sir Merowald rode to Pennsic in an open horse trailor...with the horses.

Kilkenny · Post by **Kilkenny** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:00 pm

Richard Blackmoore wrote:
Vitus von Atzinger wrote:1. Put on armour.
2. Run up hill.
(Big hill.)
3. Walk back down.
4. Run up hill.
etc.

Repeat #'s 2-4 until you puke or faint.

Do this three times a week.

Ahem...

REAL SCA knightly types continue steps 2-4 even after puking. That is why we all use bar grills and not closed face helms. But try to tell these young upstarts and do they believe you? No...

When I was young, we had to ride to Pennsic and back in the snow. Uphill, both ways.

Richard

Runs, ducks, hides...

RIDE?!?!?!? You got to RIDE to Pennsic ? Man, my first Pennsic I had to push the van. And Duke Andrew had to pick up the tractor.

Richard, when you were young is only a couple of years back

Gavin
TOFM, SSaS

blackbow · Post by **blackbow** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:03 am

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:That certainly helps. We in the Midrealm are at a distinct disadvantage because of the restrictions on ammo. We use golf tubes or Omarad bolts, and they suck.

Vitus: explore the possibilities of using Thumper heads on the golf tubes. RSVP if you want specs.

Jonathan Blackbow

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