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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:29 pm
by Skorri
Sir Daniel,

Apparently it is just the pic, reflection I guess. Although silver tool dip would be cool ! :P

So, reading all the posts, have we figured out whether they are legal (kong stuff a ball) or not ? What about other Kingdoms other than Merides ?

Skorri

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:38 pm
by Gawin der Fuchs
Meridies - Not legal
Gleann Abhann - Legal

Can't say beyond that.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:05 pm
by Ceddie
Trimaris=legal

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:07 pm
by Dalewyn
Pretty sure they're legal in the East.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:36 pm
by Sir Daniel
An Tir-probably legal. Haven't seen one here yet but I tested them at Estrella and they seemed to have plenty of give.

Sir Daniel
Kingdom Armoured Combat Marshal
An Tir

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:24 pm
by white mountain armoury
justus wrote:Just out of curiosity, how much success have you all had using a mace on the field?

I know in period a mace would be a very effective weapon, but in our game with swords that can slice through "anything" why go for a weapon that is not going to give the clang that many people expect?

Do you enjoy the handling characteristics of the mace? Do you feel that you can deliver a more stout blow with the heavier head, or is it more of a representational thing.?

-Justus

(who is all for weapons variety)

Its my primary weapon and i have decent success with it, im short with short limbs, a short mace has me standing in peoples shorts when i fight, right where i like it :)
There are disadvantages, but advantages as well, not having to worry about striking flat is a plus
For the one that asked here is a pic of mine
http://www.whitemountainarmoury.com/RS1.jpg

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:38 pm
by justus
You shield has one of thoes "look in the center and the whole world starts spinning" effects to it. :shock:

Nice rig!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:34 am
by audax
White Mountain Armoury wrote:
justus wrote:Just out of curiosity, how much success have you all had using a mace on the field?

I know in period a mace would be a very effective weapon, but in our game with swords that can slice through "anything" why go for a weapon that is not going to give the clang that many people expect?

Do you enjoy the handling characteristics of the mace? Do you feel that you can deliver a more stout blow with the heavier head, or is it more of a representational thing.?

-Justus

(who is all for weapons variety)

Its my primary weapon and i have decent success with it, im short with short limbs, a short mace has me standing in peoples shorts when i fight, right where i like it :)
There are disadvantages, but advantages as well, not having to worry about striking flat is a plus
For the one that asked here is a pic of mine
http://www.whitemountainarmoury.com/RS1.jpg


What an awesome kit!

I may have to get some of those lamellae one of these here days. :D

audax

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:34 am
by white mountain armoury
justus wrote:You shield has one of thoes "look in the center and the whole world starts spinning" effects to it. :shock:

Nice rig!

Now that my cock is painted on it its even more hypnotic :)
None of that kit is mine anymore, but the replacement is almost done.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:22 am
by Adriano
Now that my cock is painted on it its even more hypnotic

God, I hope you're talking about a rooster.

I got one

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:29 am
by rev.jc
I bought a kong mace head (dog toy) last knight at the supermarket for $5 I am going to use it for our heavy combat, it is buy far more safe than many sca weapons I have seen,

any one ever see sir owain from acres (MSR) mace it is much more dangerous than any of these!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:38 am
by Blackstone
Legal in the Outlands.

I have noticed that -- in melee -- the lack of a *CRACK* when it hits causes people to miss the shot.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:23 pm
by justus
Now that my cock is painted on it its even more hypnotic



Bwahaahaahaahaa! :D

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:55 pm
by Koredono
Don't know whether it's legal or not in Æthelmearc - AFAIK no-one in the kingdom uses one, and I've certainly never had the opportunity to inspect one to get a personal opinion on it.

I'm told that one of the other knights is considering making one for an evnet this weekend, and if he does, I'll inspect it, and let y'all know whether they're legal here.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:35 am
by Syrfinn
Yep, making one for the weekend. :) So you will get a chance to look at it and see.

Anything special you guys do with them, other than stick it on the stick? I plan on using the 3" version of the Kong.

Thanks

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:24 am
by Ceddie
Be careful cutting out the hole to mount it, the rubber seems to want to tear if the fit is too tight.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:27 am
by Uneg
Syr Finn wrote:Yep, making one for the weekend. :) So you will get a chance to look at it and see.

Anything special you guys do with them, other than stick it on the stick? I plan on using the 3" version of the Kong.

Thanks

Put it on the stick, tape above and below to hold it on, spray tool dip the head and tape, stained the haft (peeled rattan). Had someone say to me "Hey, that's a nice looking mace, too bad you can't use it because it's not on rattan..."

Then they got a closer look at it. :-)

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:31 am
by Syrfinn
Sweet, thanks. Yeah, was going to be going for the real look, so will be doing the staining and all.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:05 am
by Oswyn_de_Wulferton
The other thing I have seen is to cover the haft in "drawer paper". They make that fake wood adhesive paper to go in the bottom of drawers. Looks better than rattan does.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:34 pm
by Magnus The Black
OswynHaddock wrote:The other thing I have seen is to cover the haft in "drawer paper". They make that fake wood adhesive paper to go in the bottom of drawers. Looks better than rattan does.


Yea I've been doing that to my fiberglass spears forever. It really improves the look.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:43 pm
by justus
Just a tip for better looking weapons:

"Gel stain" works very well on rattan, even the skin. Follow the directions on the can as if you were staining a fiberglass or steel door.

Regular spirit based stain will just wipe off the skin of rattan.

I might have to try the wood grain contact paper, that is a good idea.

-Justus

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:25 pm
by Uneg
Magnus The Black wrote:
OswynHaddock wrote:The other thing I have seen is to cover the haft in "drawer paper". They make that fake wood adhesive paper to go in the bottom of drawers. Looks better than rattan does.


Yea I've been doing that to my fiberglass spears forever. It really improves the look.


Hadn't even considered that - it'd help protect the fiberglass from the sun, too. Where do you get it from?

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:39 pm
by Magnus The Black
Lowe's. Home Depot or any major chain should carry it also. Its found back in the kitchen decorationg area usually and sometimes in a varity of wood colors.

Oh yea cut it in a strip 3"x9' and it looks like a wood pole don;t do it in sections as the wood grain would be runing the wrong way.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:45 pm
by Uneg
Magnus The Black wrote:Lowe's. Home Depot or any major chain should carry it also. Its found back in the kitchen decorationg area usually and sometimes in a varity of wood colors.

Oh yea cut it in a strip 3"x9' and it looks like a wood pole don;t do it in sections as the wood grain would be runing the wrong way.


Beauty, thanks.

How Wide?

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:40 pm
by rameymj
Magnus The Black wrote:<snip>
Oh yea cut it in a strip 3"x9'
<snip>


I would think a 4" wide strip is needed.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:28 pm
by Syrfinn
Ok, in process making the mace. Have a costruction question.

How do you guys keep it on the stick? I was hoping to not have to cut the top, cause would like to have that flat with the kong ball. Will the tool dip basically hold it on? Its pretty tight on the stick as is, before I dip it.

If I have to cut the top, I have to cut the top, was just hoping not to.

Thanks

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:33 pm
by Bjørn
I was thinking about how you could attach the mace while keeping it flush. Run thin nylon rope up though the groves, over the top an down the other side. With a few pieces of rope and it taped securely at the base the head, it might work. Hope it helps.

Bjorn

Re: How Wide?

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:26 pm
by Magnus The Black
rameymj wrote:
Magnus The Black wrote:<snip>
Oh yea cut it in a strip 3"x9'
<snip>


I would think a 4" wide strip is needed.
.

I was thinking 3 but then again its been a couple years since I last taped mine (its due again) so you might be right... Anyway it works great and 1 roll will last a long long time.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:30 pm
by Magnus The Black
Syr Finn wrote:Ok, in process making the mace. Have a costruction question.

How do you guys keep it on the stick? I was hoping to not have to cut the top, cause would like to have that flat with the kong ball. Will the tool dip basically hold it on? Its pretty tight on the stick as is, before I dip it.

If I have to cut the top, I have to cut the top, was just hoping not to.

Thanks


I did cut the top on mine. I didn't see anyway around it. Mine used to have a thrusting tip on the end but thats gone now so I use the same method up there now too. I simple used some black sports tape and wraped it above and below the mace head. It doesn't go over the head just under and above. I then painted it down with liquid electrical tape (about the same as tool dip it just comes in a jar with a brush like rubber cement)