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Crusader helms

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:48 pm
by Jr
ok my google Fu is failing me and i cant find accurate helms or even Sca helms

any chance you guys could shoot me some links or even post pics of your helms ty in advance

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:02 pm
by Eirik

Re: Crusader helms

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:08 pm
by audax
Jr wrote:ok my google Fu is failing me and i cant find accurate helms or even Sca helms

any chance you guys could shoot me some links or even post pics of your helms ty in advance


Dat's because there is no such nomenclature as crusader helm.

Crusaders wore a number of different kinds of helms, depending on where and when you are talking about.

Levantine Crusades:

First - Third Crusade: mostly conicals with nasals or steel caps of various sorts.

Fourth - Ninth Crusade: You start seeing early forms of the Great Helm, as the nasal becomes a face plate, around the time of the Fourth Crusade (1202-1204). Conicals are still around but the round topped nasal helm is coming into vogue. By the end of cursading in the Levant the Great Helm is pretty well developed.

Then there are the Northern Crusades in Gernamny and the Baltic regions in the 13th century, crusades against the Tatars, also in the 13th cent, Crusades in the Balkans beginning in the late 14th century, the Aragonese crusade in the late 13th cent, the Alexandrian crusade in 1365, the Hussite Crusade from 1429-1434 and the Swedish Crusades in the 12th and 13th centuries.

So, you see that given how many centuries the crusading effort is continued, there is no such thing as a crusader helmet.

Perhaps you mean a topfhelm or saltshaker greathelm? If you could give an idea of where and when you want to be from we could narrow down your choices.

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:32 pm
by Jr
i like this helm and is it hard to make?

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:26 pm
by audax
Ah. Good choice. Very handsome helm. It is a flat top great helm or topfhelm, seen in 13th century.

It's not hard to make if you know what you are doing, as Adam Berry obviously does. He made Thaddeus' helm.

He's on here as White Mountain Armoury and he is making helms again, so give him a jingle.

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:32 pm
by Christophe de Frisselle
Topfhelm (Crusader) Helmet Kit from Zweihammer Armoury

Not hard to put together with a few tools. I highly recomend the option to have the top pre-made.

My helm

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:55 pm
by audax
Christophe de Frisselle wrote:Topfhelm (Crusader) Helmet Kit from Zweihammer Armoury

Not hard to put together with a few tools. I highly recomend the option to have the top pre-made.

My helm


Oh, yeah, good call, Christophe. Totally forgot about that.

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:51 am
by white mountain armoury
Thaddeus made his own helm with some pieces from a kit from Zweihammer Armoury and some pieces of hiw own construction.

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:07 am
by Thaddeus
white mountain armoury wrote:Thaddeus made his own helm with some pieces from a kit from Zweihammer Armoury and some pieces of hiw own construction.

Yawp.

And mine is not nearly as pretty as Adam's.

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:29 pm
by Duke Icefalcon
We have some in 12 guage stainless in stock.

I will knock $100 off the price for the first 3 people to order.

http://store.fastcommerce.com/icefalcon ... 54252.html

Ice

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:55 pm
by NeeSayer
Heres my crusader helm being built currently by jackie from shamrock armoury. Just waiting on a aventail to show up and itll be done :D

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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:42 pm
by Symon VanMoordrecht
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/NJShooter/DSCF0004.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/NJShooter/DSCF0003.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/NJShooter/DSCF0002-1.jpg[/img]

Mine in progress. Spent last weekend polishing the sucker getting ready to put the whole thing together.

Putting it together in Seamus of Airendale's shop in NJ on the weekends. The top was done by Master Cet.

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:50 pm
by Jr
that is really pretty brother symon

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:37 pm
by B. Amos
Thats my little brother in my old helm. it was a sweet helm, just too light gauge for regular use.

Here is mine

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:47 pm
by Proxus

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:25 pm
by Jr
lol man now all i need is a pattern lol

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:42 pm
by twoswords
You can find several helmets of that type in this thread: http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=73637

My bucket:
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:44 am
by InsaneIrish
My new one.

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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:54 am
by Leo Medii
My Crusader harness. It is a work in progress still, helm by Adam Berry of White Mountain Armory, the #1 place and pinnacle for this time periods helm.
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:55 am
by Reverend
Luther Anshelm has done some really nice crusader helms in the past:

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http://www.anshelmarms.com/helmets.html

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:57 am
by NeeSayer
Reverend wrote:Luther Anshelm has done some really nice crusader helms in the past:

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http://www.anshelmarms.com/helmets.html


Whoa :shock:

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:39 pm
by zachos
Post Title: falling in love again.

[img]http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/files/banes_helm_2_109_127.jpg[/img]

The ultimate of this kind of helm.

*sigh*

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:54 pm
by Roland Brokentooth
want

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:33 pm
by Leo Medii
Wow...who made that one???

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:37 pm
by Effingham
Take a number and stand in line. :P

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:28 pm
by Thaddeus
The last one is by Ugo.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:35 pm
by Dmitriy
Thaddeus -- are you sure? I was thinking it's Chris Gilman..

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:44 pm
by audax
It's a Ugo.

But I can see where you might think it was a Chris Gilman. They both do work of a similar quality.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:48 pm
by Jr
man that last one just made me drool a little =]

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:22 pm
by Dmitriy
:shock: oops, sorry Ugo!!
It was the decoration that mislead me, specifically, it reminded me of the way Chris did the trim <a href="http://globaleffects.com/B_pages/03_ArmsArmor/Period/Vendel_A_01_hi.jpg">on his vendel</a>. Ugo usually prefers to let the steel do the talking. Though obviously he makes occasional exceptions!

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:25 am
by Thaddeus
Well technically Ugo and Vrin.
Here is the thread with more Ugolishessnes...
http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=94111&highlight=