Sean Powell wrote:
Wade. Wonderful timing. I picked up some similar elbows and was planning on building myself a new set of arms just like that. I did have 2 quick questions. Did you really get by with 1 lame pattern for the shoulder or is there a slight difference between the upper and lower lame. Also you cut the wrist opening straight rather then longer on the ulnar side. I thought the wrist opening was supposed to be slightly angled. What was your historical influence?
I think I posted this somewhere else, but we can get it all in one place.
The pattern for the shoulder "cop" doesn't have the points that line up with the ones on the lames. This is "fixed" afterward by whacking the corners off so that they line up nicely with the points on the lames. We found it easier to line them up nicely with the later trim than to try make the pattern perfect when the cop gets dished a lot more than the lames.
The lames are cut the same initially. Once all of the parts are together a little grinding on the ends makes it all line up nicely.
I think the last time I did some I ended up tapering the lame plates a little bit so that the back ends up wider than the front so that the slots on the back can allow the shoulder to extend while the front is compressing on the leathers.
The cop is dished in the center, then creased, then rolled up and then flaired. If you do everything just right the first time (yea, right), this allows you to do most of the planishing and cleanup when it is easier.
The lames are also dished just a little so that they flow nicely from the cop to the upper arm plate.
Yes, we cut the bottom of the vambrace straight. Why? Because we wanted to. German vambraces appear to be cut a little differently from the typical Italian ones. The cuffs of the gauntlets are longer and more closely fitting, so you can/should actually make the vambraces a little shorter. .... we didn't do that, but we did cut it straight.
These were intended to be "cheap, fast and easy SCA armour" so there are plenty of simplifications.
They are somewhat similar in overall line with the arms in the Tower that are illustrated on page 211 of Blair - second row, right one. These are the arms that are on the armour illustrated in "European Armour in the Tower of London" Plate VI. The vambraces on those arms are very similar (shorter). The elbow cop is similar in concept (but with some nice flutes) and the upper arm is a more complicated version of the same idea. We arbitrarily left off the top separate top lame and one lame below the cop and some cute decoration on the cop.
I would characterize these as simple arms styled after the designs of those made for low end armours typically called "gothic" from the second half of the 15th c. I would not say that they are a good copy of any particular piece or pieces. I think they are pretty reasonable for a low end interpretation. Probably best worn with a breastplate and salade, but nothing high end.
Is that appropriately weasel - like?
Edited to add some more detail.