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Ltb I33
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:38 pm
by tvetree
Who sells the I33 book.(the one wth the buckler stuff in it)
I think this is going to be my christmass gift to my self.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:52 pm
by Lloyd
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:00 pm
by mackenzie
Which i33 book are you interested in?
There are 2 that I own and that you can find on Amazon and likely any other big book seller although it looks like Amazon is sold out.
The first I highly recommend.
The Medieval Art of Swordsmanship: A Facsimile & Translation of Europe's Oldest Personal Combat Treatise, Royal Armouries MS I.33 (Royal Armouries Monograph)
# Publisher: Chivalry Bookshelf (September 2003)
# Language: English
# ISBN-10: 1891448382
# ISBN-13: 978-1891448386
Medieval Sword & Shield: The Combat System of Royal Armouries MS I.33 by Paul Wagner
# Publisher: Chivalry Bookshelf (February 1, 2004)
# Language: English
# ISBN-10: 1891448439
# ISBN-13: 978-1891448430
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:10 pm
by tvetree
I'm not sure which really.I was told that it deals a lot with sword and buckler.Which is why I thought it would be a good read.
Haven't looked for it anywhere but here yet.
Looks like it maybe an after Xmas gift if 55$ that Revival.us wants for it is the going rate.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:21 pm
by Saritor
The first one is Forgeng's translation and a facsimile without much interpretation.
The second is Wagner's interpretation.
Just kinda depends on what you're looking for. Jester, occasionally here on the Archive, has been doing some work on I.33 for a while now...you might ask him via pm what his opinion is.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:50 pm
by AL
Wagner and Hands book can be had on Amazon for $30.00 new
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=s ... &x=15&y=21
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:43 am
by mackenzie
If you buy the Wagner and Hands book Medieval Sword & Shield: The Combat System of Royal Armouries MS I.33 get a copy of SPADA 2 or otherwise acquire a copy of the revisions found in Re-interpreting Aspects of the Sword & Buckler System in Royal Armouries MS. I.33 by Stephen Hand.
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:36 pm
by Murdock
I has both the Forgeng and the Hand works on the subject
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:57 pm
by tvetree
Murdock wrote:I has both the Forgeng and the Hand works on the subject
How much?
Also which would you recomend.
Looking for reveiws here.My Goal/reason for wanting the book.
I use a buckler pretty much all the time.I really like it.Doesn't matter to me what the list brings me I'd still rather have the buckler.
(don't take this wrong people) I have only used it in the SCA as such I have no clue to what may or not be correct form.
It doesn't matter much but if I could use the I33 to give a better appearance/show I would enjoy it even more.