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Looking for 14th Century Full Plate kit.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:26 am
by ThomasKirk
Hello every one, My name is thomas and I have been in the scar for about 2 years now. Well for about 6 months I was in the hospitial and had to sell all of my gear off. And now that I am better and working again i am looking to slowly start buying me a set again. I am looking for roughly 14th century but right now im not being picky because I just want to fight agian. If you know of anywhere I would greatly appreciate the Info you can either post on here or PM me
Thank you very much
Thomas
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:05 am
by Anton
Check out Stonekeep Armory. Good gear and service.
Anton
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:31 am
by ThomasKirk
I do know of stonekeep and have checked him out but I just wanted to check on here first, I have been a member longer then this acct has been open i use to be under Godefri D'woulfe just cant remember pass and such but anyways if anyone else has any info just let me know i would greatly appreciate it
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:34 am
by HammerBreaker
Hammer breaker ))))
Nice works
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:40 am
by Amanda M
The nice thing about the 14th century is that you can put together some decent covered or hidden armor if you're on a serious budget. You can cover the body with a nice jupon and make some gamboissed (spelling arg) cuisses for the legs. Get a decent bascinet with an aventail and maybe some leather shinbalds or something and voila.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:48 am
by Jantien van Vranckenvoert
I see you are in Colorado, I may be able to help you out on a somewhat "local" level if you are willing to put some of your own "elbow grease" into the effort. Please PM me if you are interested.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:51 pm
by CLANG
I dunno what's your budget or interest, but I have a stainless greathelm sitting here that would like an owner, and would conveniently fit your time period.

It's my standard type as seen in the first listing on this page:
http://clang.adkinssoftware.com/helm%20 ... %2001.html
Click on thumb for more pics/info.
Price is $265 + s/h, but I could probably be persuaded to reduce it a little.
Shoot me an email if you're interested.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:06 pm
by Jestyr
Isabella E wrote:The nice thing about the 14th century is that you can put together some decent covered or hidden armor if you're on a serious budget. You can cover the body with a nice jupon and make some gamboissed (spelling arg) cuisses for the legs. Get a decent bascinet with an aventail and maybe some leather shinbalds or something and voila.
I've been thinking of doing a kit like that with my current gear just to show it can be done.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:28 pm
by Amanda M
I made these for a song:
Pretty much zero experience or armoring skill required. The arms will match.

For someone starting out, I think if you can focus on getting a nice helm as the basis for the rest of the kit you can put together covered or hidden stuff at less cost.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:36 pm
by ThomasKirk
Ya, i have done the hidden armor before I would perfer not to do that, I was thinking i would stay toward the plate side of armor mainly because I love how it looks always have, also I need the most protection i can possibly have, because I have to really really really protect my chest
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:02 pm
by Jehan de Pelham
Best of luck!
Best,
John
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:04 pm
by ThomasKirk
Eh, im 5'10 220, and dont have the 6500 right now
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:07 pm
by Jehan de Pelham
I know, that's why I edited out my smartass remark and wrote something more to the point.
But if you had $6500 on hand, and were the right size, I'd consider it. It's a good kit.
Best,
John
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:13 pm
by ThomasKirk
Its all good Im use to smart ass coments by now I dont think you could be in the sca and not be use to them. But for those that are reading this I need the BP to at least be 14 gauge stainless for the protection, Doc says if i get to hard with out ample protection that it could severly injure me ~Shrug~ we all got to die some way right LOL
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:23 pm
by Amanda M
For your price range you might not be able to find what you're looking for and have it be a quality kit. But I think that if you're willing to either do some stuff yourself or go with gamboised bits or splinted you can do a reasonable 14th century interpretation for the SCA. You can do that and get a decent helm and rigid chest protection.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:27 pm
by ThomasKirk
If everything goes right, I should have about 12 grand of back pay from the VA, which will be a lump sum here soon I plan on taking that and buying me a quality suit only because my Dr. keeps calling me telling me to invest in it if i really want to do it otherwise he wont clear me....

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:31 pm
by AvM
Isabella E wrote:
Please tell me how you made these...
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:33 pm
by ThomasKirk
Not sure how she did them but I have done some that looked almost exactly like that for my first kit before i went to the hospitial and it was leather, I trimmed the leather anad then cut out ABS and heated it up so i could form the peices a bit and then i sprayed glue on the abs attached the leather that way and then rivited the leather on for extra security
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:40 am
by Godefroi D'Woulfe
Alright everyone I found my orignal armour archive log in info so this is thomas

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:42 pm
by Jehan de Pelham
Basically, I'd start from a sweet helmet--don't skimp here, and you can get your money back if you change your mind later. My recommendations based on my experience are Jeff Hedgecock and Brent Junkins of Anshelm Arms. MattMaus here on the Archive who is in Colorado is undervalued, and his equipment is solid. I don't know if he does bascinets however--a lot of his helmets are multi-peice riveted sorts, but there are those kinds of helmets in the 14th C too.
Then some kind of lightly padded poofy coat to hide some Sir Haroun bazubands (Colorado Springs) under, and whatever torso armor, and you need some metal legs, and you're good to go.
Best,
John
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:54 pm
by Sigurd Fjalarson
Matt has done some swell bascinets in his time. I would hit him up here and see if he has another in the works. He's a breeze to work with, and if you wanna go down and do the work yourself, a good teacher and damn patient as well!
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:30 pm
by Godefroi D'Woulfe
Thank you all for the great imformation, It is nice to see that chivalry is alive and well, and people are still willing to help out there even if it is only with imformation

. I have contacted both Matt and Sir Haroun
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:09 pm
by Duke Icefalcon
We can help you out as well. We have everything from the arming cotes, and armor from head to toe.
Check us out...
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:57 pm
by Jolly Knight
Good day sirs.
Look in my side, I cam make you full plates armour too.
"from head to toe"

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:27 pm
by Luther Anshelm
yea
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:57 am
by darksole03
AvM wrote:Isabella E wrote:
Please tell me how you made these...
Yeah Im curious as well.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:25 am
by Amanda M
I pmed the posters who asked with instructions.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:15 am
by Steve S.
HammerBreaker wrote:Hammer breaker ))))
Nice works
Can you show us a picture of the back of this armour:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5N6u5Rv0qU0/SLxHK ... %8F%29.jpg
I like this and would like to try and make one also.
Steve
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:52 am
by Steve S.
I am looking for roughly 14th century but right now im not being picky because I just want to fight agian.
Looking for 14th Century Full Plate kit.
The 14th century covers a very dynamic era for knightly armour. At the beginning of the century, we have knights armoured basically as they had been for 200 years prior - head-to-toe maille. Very quickly, however, pieces of plate harness began to evolve, covering the arms, legs, hands, and torso. By the end of the century, harness had evolved very nearly into the "white harness" of full plate perfected in the 15th century.
You have not stipulated what era you are looking to portray, nor what kind of budget you are working with, so it is hard to offer suggestions.
A late-14th century harness, with full plate limb and torso defenses, could be quite costly, even in "munitions" grade, or "SCA" quality.
For example, Illusion Armoring has a 14th century style of suit listed at the top of this page for about $1300 in mild steel:
http://p7.hostingprod.com/@illusionarmo ... uits1.html
If you want spring steel, or something of higher quality, you can pay many times that much.
Early 14th century is usually easier to do on a budget, because much of the armour is cloth or leather based, and can be manufactured by yourself with arguably less skill and tools than the later-era plate.
Steve
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:13 pm
by Godefroi D'Woulfe
Well, thank you for the much needed info I am still studying the 14th century to learn more about it, I am going late era, Mild steel plate armor and I have roughly 3 grand to work with
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:31 am
by Jehan de Pelham
If you have three grand to work with, I'd suggest you don't go mild. Go with spring steel. Or, if you can find a reliable provider whose quality is high, some variety of spring stainless. It is more durable, lighter, and will retain its value.
Best,
John
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:47 am
by knitebee
I love doing 14c armour (especially proper brass trim), in fact my personal kit is circa 1380-1410. I dont stock armour, its all built to customer preferances and sizing.
[img]http://members.armourarchive.org/knitebee/hourglassbrass1.JPG[/img]

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:00 am
by Steve S.
If you have three grand to work with, I'd suggest you don't go mild. Go with spring steel. Or, if you can find a reliable provider whose quality is high, some variety of spring stainless. It is more durable, lighter, and will retain its value.
I agree with this.
Steve
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:16 am
by Godefroi D'Woulfe
I figured 3 grand wouldn't be enough for spring steel, in all honest i figured it wouldnt even be enough for stainless
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:24 am
by Jehan de Pelham
Nay, nay good fellow! You won't be able to get certain things--I would say that cased greaves would be out, but you need not settle.
Spring steel is not necessary for a helmet, I would say a nice heavy 12 Gauge mild or stainless would work quite well.
Best,
John