What's the story with the Ukrainian Grand Bascinets?

Ottawa Swordplay · Post by **Ottawa Swordplay** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:27 pm

So recently the following three helmets have been listed for sale (note that I bought one and love it!):

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... p?t=111670

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... p?t=113253

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... p?t=110932

These helmets are clearly all different helmets, but they are also strikingly similar, and all for sale in the Ukraine. Are these helmets all made by the same person? Did the three of you make them together at a grand bascinet making bee? What's the story?

William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:06 pm

Most of the Ukranian Armourers learned from the same fellow I'm willing to bet

kersme · Post by **kersme** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:14 pm

If i'm not wrong (and i might well be), then they used to work together, but don't anymore...but they still use the same patterns...

VikingofKiev · Post by **VikingofKiev** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:29 am

Most likely all these helms origin from the same town in Ukraine where a very good workshop is located. The men working there leave as they decide they have learned some skills enough to work on their own. So they become working individually but use the same patterns they learned at the very first place of work.
P.S. They as well may make some stuff for themselves being yet in staff of the workshop when they have free time or smth. like that.

Randy W · Post by **Randy W** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:30 am

I think we should count ourselves quite lucky, we have these amazing craftsmen making amazing helms at amazing prices

Tancred de Lanvellec · Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:35 am

Quite right!

Ottawa Swordplay · Post by **Ottawa Swordplay** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:04 pm

I absolutely consider myself fortunate in the helmet I purchased, and intend to buy more armour in the future.

HammerBreaker · Post by **HammerBreaker** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:41 am

All has truly noticed VikingofKiev.
All of us started to do armour's together, and in same time.

Jolly Knight · Post by **Jolly Knight** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:40 am

Good day,

I want to say that, there are not so many historical Grand Bascinets made in that style, so no wonder that they are similar.

Cheers.

Owyn · Post by **Owyn** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:22 am

I don't think anyone is complaining, folks.

The helm style is unusual enough here that it's remarkable to see one - let alone three! But I for one enjoy seeing the work, so keep it up!

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:32 am

Those helms are beautiful! I really shouldn't buy one right now, but when they come out in stainless I might end up kitting up my son in a 14th century kit.

-Aaron