Market research - titanium CoP
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Market research - titanium CoP
Market research.
I have some titanium for one CoP
Is there anyone interested in titanium torso?
Looking to make Wisby type 1
or Kussnach style brig, or maby someone would be interested in fitted CoP? Approximate price 400$+
https://pp.vk.me/c628322/v628322749/126 ... 3i37uc.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c620222/v620222749/199 ... OBCcZo.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c628322/v628322749/126 ... GH0n0c.jpg
Note: on the right - only a concept of Kussnach (made on base of pic with fitted CoP), such brig was the first CoP I have made, pics here
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159101
Fitted CoP insede https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 4808_o.jpg
Wisby type 1
HD https://pp.vk.me/c623924/v623924749/2dd ... T7B21o.jpg
https://pp.vk.me/c623924/v623924749/2dd ... vNy19c.jpg
I have some titanium for one CoP
Is there anyone interested in titanium torso?
Looking to make Wisby type 1
or Kussnach style brig, or maby someone would be interested in fitted CoP? Approximate price 400$+
https://pp.vk.me/c628322/v628322749/126 ... 3i37uc.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c620222/v620222749/199 ... OBCcZo.jpg https://pp.vk.me/c628322/v628322749/126 ... GH0n0c.jpg
Note: on the right - only a concept of Kussnach (made on base of pic with fitted CoP), such brig was the first CoP I have made, pics here
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159101
Fitted CoP insede https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 4808_o.jpg
Wisby type 1
HD https://pp.vk.me/c623924/v623924749/2dd ... T7B21o.jpg
https://pp.vk.me/c623924/v623924749/2dd ... vNy19c.jpg
Last edited by Evil_Doctor on Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:26 am, edited 4 times in total.
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
Interested, what kind of materials would you use for the lining and the shell; what material would be used to attach the plates to the shell? PM'd with other questions.
Re: Market research - titanium CoP
I am definitely interested. I'd also like to hear the answers to Valmont's questions.
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Valmont wrote:Interested, what kind of materials would you use for the lining and the shell; what material would be used to attach the plates to the shell? PM'd with other questions.
Form this time viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159101 not many things have changed.Murnig wrote:I am definitely interested. I'd also like to hear the answers to Valmont's questions.
Shell - layer of 100%wool (now I can also use velvet) and 2 layers of tarapulin=canvas (or I can use 1 layer of canvas to reduce weight)
I don`t get the question about
Plates attached to the shell with rivets - so attaching material is steel. Roofing nails(galvanized as an option) processed with a file if being precise.what material would be used to attach the plates to the shell
What would the timeframe be to build/ship?
making Fitted CoP 1-8 weeks, Kussnach/Wisby 1-6 weeks
Standard air shipping 7-14days
Right now I have material only for length as on pics, but Yes It`s possible.Would it be possible to add length to the shell (more material, no more plates); make it look more like an armored surcoat?
~40$(shipping price increased because of changes in currency exchange rates), maybe more, depends on your size.What would the shipping costs be?
Western UnionHow can you accept payment?
SWIFT -under question
No PayPal
I expect 30% prepay, other part after finishing project.What would you expect in terms of payment schedule? (Half up front, pay as you go, etc...)
I have few people interested (but titan only for one right now),
so I`am going to choose most interesting and challenging offer (want to make fitted with velvet shell) , but if someone will want simplified version of Wisby and ready to prepay 100% - I will choose this offer viewtopic.php?f=3&t=168159 (without scallops)
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
Would you be willing to do one with brass rivets instead of steel? I'd rather not have to worry about rust.
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Sad, but I`am not sure if I can find brass rivets. Need to check this out.Murnig wrote:Would you be willing to do one with brass rivets instead of steel? I'd rather not have to worry about rust.
copper or copper-covered - maybe,
galvanized (so face part will be protected) - definitely.
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I'd be interested in the copper covered rivets.
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
I would definitely be interested at a $400 price point.
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
I'm interested. It ain't historical, but it'll be easier to wear, and I like what I've seen of your work thus far E-D, at least the pics of them.
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
copper is best with leather and won't react with the titanium.
steel rivets will rot the leather/cloth.
t6 alum is lighter than titanium in a decent gauge(.080 -- .010) and will work great for this kind of cop.
but it will react with the rivets unless you use aluminum(best) rivets or stainless.
edit: I am not sure how alum n the interior will hold up in a cop that is constantly sweated in. anyone have some experience(own one) with this?
some research indicates alum/stainless will rot when exposed to chlorides:
Aluminum and Stainless Steel
Under atmospheric conditions of moderate to mild humidity, contact between a galvanized surface and aluminum or stainless steel is unlikely to cause substantial incremental corrosion. However, under very humid conditions, the galvanized surface may require electrical isolation from the aluminum or stainless steel. Normally the galvanic coupling with stainless steel works very well but when there are even the slightest trace of chloride in the environment a galvanic corrosion will take place.
best of luck
mrks
Metal reactions list:
the farther away two metals are from each other the more reactive they are.
Magnesium
Mg alloy AZ-31B
Mg alloy HK-31A
Zinc (hot-dip, die cast, or plated)
Beryllium (hot pressed)
Al 7072 clad on 7075
Al 2014-T3
Al 1160-H14
Al 7079-T6
Cadmium (plated)
Uranium
Al 218 (die cast)
Al 5052-0
Al 5052-H12
Al 5456-0, H353
Al 5052-H32
Al 1100-0
Al 3003-H25
Al 6061-T6
Al A360 (die cast)
Al 7075-T6
Al 6061-0
Indium
Al 2014-0
Al 2024-T4
Al 5052-H16
Tin (plated)
Stainless steel 430 (active)
Lead
Steel 1010
Iron (cast)
Copper (plated, cast, or wrought)
Nickel (plated)
Chromium (Plated)
Tantalum
AM350 (active)
Stainless steel 310 (active)
Stainless steel 301 (active)
Stainless steel 304 (active)
Stainless steel 430 (active)
Stainless steel 410 (active)
Stainless steel 17-7PH (active)
Tungsten
Niobium (columbium) 1% Zr
Brass, Yellow, 268
Uranium 8% Mo.
Brass, Naval, 464
Yellow Brass
Muntz Metal 280
Brass (plated)
Nickel-silver (18% Ni)
Stainless steel 316L (active)
Bronze 220
Copper 110
Red Brass
Stainless steel 347 (active)
Molybdenum, Commercial pure
Copper-nickel 715
Admiralty brass
Stainless steel 202 (active)
Bronze, Phosphor 534 (B-1)
Monel 400
Stainless steel 201 (active)
Carpenter 20 (active)
Stainless steel 321 (active)
Stainless steel 316 (active)
Stainless steel 309 (active)
Stainless steel 17-7PH (passive)
Silicone Bronze 655
Stainless steel 304 (passive)
Stainless steel 301 (passive)
Stainless steel 321 (passive)
Stainless steel 201 (passive)
Stainless steel 286 (passive)
Stainless steel 316L (passive)
AM355 (active)
Stainless steel 202 (passive)
Carpenter 20 (passive)
AM355 (passive)
A286 (passive)
Titanium 5A1, 2.5 Sn
Titanium 13V, 11Cr, 3Al (annealed)
Titanium 6Al, 4V (solution treated and aged)
Titanium 6Al, 4V (anneal)
Titanium 8Mn
Titanium 13V, 11Cr 3Al (solution heat treated and aged)
Titanium 75A
AM350 (passive)
Silver
Gold
Graphite
steel rivets will rot the leather/cloth.
t6 alum is lighter than titanium in a decent gauge(.080 -- .010) and will work great for this kind of cop.
but it will react with the rivets unless you use aluminum(best) rivets or stainless.
edit: I am not sure how alum n the interior will hold up in a cop that is constantly sweated in. anyone have some experience(own one) with this?
some research indicates alum/stainless will rot when exposed to chlorides:
Aluminum and Stainless Steel
Under atmospheric conditions of moderate to mild humidity, contact between a galvanized surface and aluminum or stainless steel is unlikely to cause substantial incremental corrosion. However, under very humid conditions, the galvanized surface may require electrical isolation from the aluminum or stainless steel. Normally the galvanic coupling with stainless steel works very well but when there are even the slightest trace of chloride in the environment a galvanic corrosion will take place.
best of luck
mrks
Metal reactions list:
the farther away two metals are from each other the more reactive they are.
Magnesium
Mg alloy AZ-31B
Mg alloy HK-31A
Zinc (hot-dip, die cast, or plated)
Beryllium (hot pressed)
Al 7072 clad on 7075
Al 2014-T3
Al 1160-H14
Al 7079-T6
Cadmium (plated)
Uranium
Al 218 (die cast)
Al 5052-0
Al 5052-H12
Al 5456-0, H353
Al 5052-H32
Al 1100-0
Al 3003-H25
Al 6061-T6
Al A360 (die cast)
Al 7075-T6
Al 6061-0
Indium
Al 2014-0
Al 2024-T4
Al 5052-H16
Tin (plated)
Stainless steel 430 (active)
Lead
Steel 1010
Iron (cast)
Copper (plated, cast, or wrought)
Nickel (plated)
Chromium (Plated)
Tantalum
AM350 (active)
Stainless steel 310 (active)
Stainless steel 301 (active)
Stainless steel 304 (active)
Stainless steel 430 (active)
Stainless steel 410 (active)
Stainless steel 17-7PH (active)
Tungsten
Niobium (columbium) 1% Zr
Brass, Yellow, 268
Uranium 8% Mo.
Brass, Naval, 464
Yellow Brass
Muntz Metal 280
Brass (plated)
Nickel-silver (18% Ni)
Stainless steel 316L (active)
Bronze 220
Copper 110
Red Brass
Stainless steel 347 (active)
Molybdenum, Commercial pure
Copper-nickel 715
Admiralty brass
Stainless steel 202 (active)
Bronze, Phosphor 534 (B-1)
Monel 400
Stainless steel 201 (active)
Carpenter 20 (active)
Stainless steel 321 (active)
Stainless steel 316 (active)
Stainless steel 309 (active)
Stainless steel 17-7PH (passive)
Silicone Bronze 655
Stainless steel 304 (passive)
Stainless steel 301 (passive)
Stainless steel 321 (passive)
Stainless steel 201 (passive)
Stainless steel 286 (passive)
Stainless steel 316L (passive)
AM355 (active)
Stainless steel 202 (passive)
Carpenter 20 (passive)
AM355 (passive)
A286 (passive)
Titanium 5A1, 2.5 Sn
Titanium 13V, 11Cr, 3Al (annealed)
Titanium 6Al, 4V (solution treated and aged)
Titanium 6Al, 4V (anneal)
Titanium 8Mn
Titanium 13V, 11Cr 3Al (solution heat treated and aged)
Titanium 75A
AM350 (passive)
Silver
Gold
Graphite
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mostly retired but still producing as a hobby.
am tired of making Titanium and 301 SS finger gauntlets
but still offer DIY shaped 301SS fingertip kits for $60 shipped.
usually can ship next day.
mostly retired but still producing as a hobby.
am tired of making Titanium and 301 SS finger gauntlets
but still offer DIY shaped 301SS fingertip kits for $60 shipped.
usually can ship next day.
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
I'll bet aluminum brazier rivets would be perfect for these. I think RJ Leahy sells them by the pound. Of course, there is amazon :http://www.amazon.com/Brazier-Solid-Alu ... B0040CZ73O
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
I have had aluminum roofing nails holding the palm strap in my Ti demi-gauntlets completely corrode away.
I replaced them with copper and haven't had an issue since.
I also have used aluminum rivets to hold the demi pieces together. They have seen some corrosion, but not as much. Probably because the leather strap kept the moisture on the rivets longer.
I haven't noticed an issue with the aluminum rivets on my Ti finger gauntlets, but this may be because they get far less use than the demis.
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I replaced them with copper and haven't had an issue since.
I also have used aluminum rivets to hold the demi pieces together. They have seen some corrosion, but not as much. Probably because the leather strap kept the moisture on the rivets longer.
I haven't noticed an issue with the aluminum rivets on my Ti finger gauntlets, but this may be because they get far less use than the demis.
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
copper on titanium is fine so is brass or stainless.
but copper with alum is a disaster.
that's why I was wondering how alum rivets would workout with an alum cop.
copper coated steel eventually failed on my buffalo hide stainless scale and the scales started falling out after 10 years or so.
but copper with alum is a disaster.
that's why I was wondering how alum rivets would workout with an alum cop.
copper coated steel eventually failed on my buffalo hide stainless scale and the scales started falling out after 10 years or so.
sirmrks
mostly retired but still producing as a hobby.
am tired of making Titanium and 301 SS finger gauntlets
but still offer DIY shaped 301SS fingertip kits for $60 shipped.
usually can ship next day.
mostly retired but still producing as a hobby.
am tired of making Titanium and 301 SS finger gauntlets
but still offer DIY shaped 301SS fingertip kits for $60 shipped.
usually can ship next day.
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
I`am not going to make it from aluminium. For me easier to get titaniummrks wrote: t6 alum is lighter than titanium in a decent gauge(.080 -- .010) and will work great for this kind of cop.
Due to this list using a zinc coated steel roofing nails with titanium would be a very bad idea, thx, it will help.Metal reactions list:
the farther away two metals are from each other the more reactive they are.
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Re: Market research - titanium CoP
I would dearly love to see a front closing coat of plates of that style. And at a $400 price point I'd be very interested.
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I own brigandine arms I bought instock from Evil_Doctor.
They are great! They are pictured in a thread from him that is linked above.
I would be really tempted to buy a matching cop, but i need the money for the house at the moment.
Good luck with your sale Evil_Doctor
They are great! They are pictured in a thread from him that is linked above.
I would be really tempted to buy a matching cop, but i need the money for the house at the moment.
Good luck with your sale Evil_Doctor
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I used to drive by there warehouse on my way home from work.
If there is a type of rivet you need I bet they have it.
http://www.rivetsinstock.com/
If there is a type of rivet you need I bet they have it.
http://www.rivetsinstock.com/
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No, they don`t have what I need. And there is no need to buy rivets across the seaTristanVonRottweil wrote:I used to drive by there warehouse on my way home from work.
If there is a type of rivet you need I bet they have it.
http://www.rivetsinstock.com/
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