Stolen helmet

AB Hammer · Post by **AB Hammer** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:07 am

Here is the photo of the helm that was stolen.

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And the rplacement is on final assembly, and will be finished today 12-5-04.

We are lacking total payment of the helm at this time (60%), "once paid for" no other donations will be taken.

PM me for any other information.

Thanks for you help.

AB Hammer aka/ Alan Bauldree

William Freskyn Murray · Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:17 pm

Alan,

where can donations be sent to? It's the time of giving and I know how I'd feel if my WMA helm "walked" out of my garage.

Will

AB Hammer · Post by **AB Hammer** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:59 pm

All information is on this web sight.

http://creationtime.com/dex1.html

If you like to use pay-pal please use apprenticearmoury@yahoo.com

I will post to stop dontions as soon at it is paid for.

Thank You

AB Hammer aka/ Alan Bauldree

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:11 pm

God keep Gunnar, and when he receives his helmet anew, my wager is that he keeps it with his sword, next to his bed!

Jehan, squire of Sir Vitus

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:06 am

I have sent in a donation.

Steve

Sir Thorfinn · Post by **Sir Thorfinn** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:35 pm

Me too...

Gwydion Caithnes · Post by **Gwydion Caithnes** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:27 pm

Me three...keep this one locked up! It's too pretty to lose!

AB Hammer · Post by **AB Hammer** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:39 am

Thanks to those who have helped so far but we still have a bit to go.

Thanks

AB Hammer

Ceddie · Post by **Ceddie** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:26 am

AB Hammer

check your PMs

Cat · Post by **Cat** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:49 am

I am unfortunately unable to donate cash, as my finances are pretty bleak (and at Christmas time too

) but I would be willing to make someone an aventail for free if they would donate $20 to this cause. Let me know if you are interested. I'm really sorry I can't donate cash myself.

Cat

AB Hammer · Post by **AB Hammer** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:20 pm

BUMP

AB Hammer · Post by **AB Hammer** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:40 pm

Bump bump?

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:52 pm

Cat, its a deal I need an aventail BBBBAAADDD............

Cat · Post by **Cat** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:59 pm

Alphonse,
Send me an email at kauscg@email.msn.com. I will need some measurements and I will get some other info as well. Thank you for allowing me to help out!

Cat

PS. Send your donation directly to their collection fund, and not to me. Thanks!

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:09 pm

e-mail sent where do I send the $$$$$$ I dont do paypal,

sulla · Post by **sulla** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:11 pm

Are we even close to having the helmet paid for? (not asking for actuall amounts...)

Just wondering if X-mas will be on time this year. I.e. bump

Cat · Post by **Cat** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:14 pm

Alphonse,
Check with ABHammer about where and how to send the money. I'm not really sure how he would like it done.

Cat

AB Hammer · Post by **AB Hammer** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:46 pm

Bump Please!

William Freskyn Murray · Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:30 pm

just made a donation via Paypal, good luck Gunnar.

and :bump:

Will

Cat · Post by **Cat** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:17 am

How close are you to raising the money? If you still need more, I will make another aventail for someone if they will donate $20 to the cause, or a coif if they donate $30.

Cat

William Freskyn Murray · Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:54 am

I received an email from Alan after making my donation and he was close to $600, but had to add things back up to be certain. He also stated that Gunnar wanted to be a part of the final assembly of his new helmet so final construction was being put on hold for a few weeks then Gunnar is going to travel to Alan's shop to finish things up.

hope it all works of for him, I keep thinking how pissed I would be if my helmet walked out my garage!

Will

Abaddon · Post by **Abaddon** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:31 am

It is weird when you think about it...
Someone stole this helm. And either they know what it is, or they don't.
Maybe it just looked shiny and cool to them, or maybe they really value it as a piece of wearable art. But for the life of me I can't decide which the worse scenario is. Obviously if the person who stole it had some idea of the level of skill and artistry it took to make it, then they must have had some idea of its value; both monetarily, and of the likely importance of it to the victim. This would make thier crime objectively that much worse, that much more evil, because they would know the precise amount of damage they were doing to their victim. Yet there is some justificaction if the person knew what it was, and stole it precisely because he wanted something exactly like that. It would be irresitable because he knew what it was.

But I find the alternative idea of a random theft to be insupportable for other reasons. Because now some punk has a unique piece of property and has no idea of its value or significance, and so probably doesn't place much value on it himself. It didn't enrich the thief's life at all, and yet left the victim desolate. I do not know which is worse.
I mean I wouldn't hope that the thief was enjoying his ill-gotten gains, and yet is seems a shame that the one person who might actually ever see this helm again, would be one who cannot appreciate its artistry.

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:37 am

I have thought much the same thing, but have found the thoughts too perplexing to frame.

However, it is a unique item. I should not be surprised if it turns up somewhere.

Jehan, squire of Sir Vitus

Sir Thorfinn · Post by **Sir Thorfinn** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:20 pm

odds are, knowing the Ohio hicks I have run into...it is on a fence post being shot at...or in a landfill somewhere...

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:35 pm

I once had a friend that had everything stolen from his car EXCEPT his sallet. It's like they didn't know what to make of it, but the body armour? Oh yeah! That's going to the GWAR show... :roll:

Cat · Post by **Cat** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:08 pm

Hey, we're not all hicks here in Ohio. As a matter of fact, the owner of The Limited, Les Wexner, lives here as well as the Schottenstein family. (although, not in my neighborhood - but people in my neighborhood SHOP at Schotenstein's

)

Does the owner of the stolen helm live in Ohio? If so, I can keep an eye out for it.

Cat

Ps. Someone has taken me up on the second offer for an aventail. I may offer another one after this one is finished, but if I do, it won't be until sometime after Christmas.