Cloth or Metal Studs?

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Cloth or Metal Studs?

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipila ... /album-721 I guess there’s no way to tell from a sculpture but which is more likely? I can’t find anything from the period to compare it to.
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It looks like they’re using both cloth and metal during the period: https://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipila ... 129095611/

This is later but interesting: https://historicaltextiles.org/a-green- ... h-century/ There’s two rivets per plate and the rest are decorative. This doesn’t prove anything as far as the doublet but it does show the use of large rivets attached to just material.
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Len Parker wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:03 pm https://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipila ... /album-721 I guess there’s no way to tell from a sculpture but which is more likely? I can’t find anything from the period to compare it to.
Do you mean the fellow on the right? This does not look like armor, but rather a padded/quilted civilian garment.

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Yes, the doublet. You see many modern studded doublet/gambesons like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386053289397 That's why I'm curious as to whether the studs were likely to be cloth or metal.
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Len Parker wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:29 am Yes, the doublet. You see many modern studded doublet/gambesons like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386053289397 That's why I'm curious as to whether the studs were likely to be cloth or metal.
To me, the most likely thing is for them to be made like buttons. That's probably a fabric covered construct. In a sense, they are analogous to the buttons we sometimes see in modern upholstery.

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Similar to the later St.Ursula jacks, perhaps?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma ... emling.jpg I was going to use that as an example but I wasn't sure if they were buttons or just round stitchwork.
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The thing in the sculpture of the martyrdom of St Andrew is a civilian garment. What may appear as gauntlets are those flared cuffs that we see sometimes in the 1370s or '80s.

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