Almost 10,000 pics in Flickr: Frescoes, paintings, armour...

[Tom B.]

EDIT: Now there are over 20k of photos!

Andrea Carloni's Flickr Photo Sets are a good way to lose a few hours and a few gigabytes of HD space.

Hundreds of Italian frescoes that I have never seen and better photos of the ones I have seen before.
Pictures from some Italian & Spanish museums that you seldom see photos from.
Some very high quality photos from the KHM and other more commonly seen museums.

Too many things to list.

Here are a few teasers: (much higher resolution available in Flickr)

[Keegan Ingrassia]

What a fantastic resource! Thank you for sharing, Tom.

[sulla123]

Thanks here goes a few hours of my life haha.

[Luca Sogliano]

Tom, I could kiss you.

[Tibbie Croser]

Thank you.

I'm already intrigued by picture no. 2 (old man in white cap). From the link I followed, it seems to be a Netherlandish painting from the end of the 15th century. Is the short-sleeved yellowish garment a doublet? Are the points on the sleeves intended for tying on long sleeves? Is the square pattern quilted or part of the fabric? The sleeve points seem to come through the center dots of the squares; does that mean that all the dots in the squares are eyelets, or just those on the sleeves? Look at the blue outer garment hanging inside out from his waist; are those vertical buttonholes on the left side of the garment? (I thought horizontal buttonholes were standard for medieval and Renaissance clothing.)

[Tom B.]

Thank you.

I'm already intrigued by picture no. 2 (old man in white cap). From the link I followed, it seems to be a Netherlandish painting from the end of the 15th century. Is the short-sleeved yellowish garment a doublet? Are the points on the sleeves intended for tying on long sleeves? Is the square pattern quilted or part of the fabric? The sleeve points seem to come through the center dots of the squares; does that mean that all the dots in the squares are eyelets, or just those on the sleeves? Look at the blue outer garment hanging inside out from his waist; are those vertical buttonholes on the left side of the garment? (I thought horizontal buttonholes were standard for medieval and Renaissance clothing.)

My guess is a "Doublet Full of Holes"

[Keegan Ingrassia]

Wow! That is an unbelievable amount of work in those garments. Interesting note, the second shirt in your images actually has mail rings sewn in those little rosettes. Hm...that could make a case for "ring-mail"...

[Tom B.]

Wow! That is an unbelievable amount of work in those garments. Interesting note, the second shirt in your images actually has mail rings sewn in those little rosettes. Hm...that could make a case for "ring-mail"...

That is right, it seems some were made with the rings and some without.
link to blog post about a reproduction

[worldantiques]

Wow! That is an unbelievable amount of work in those garments. Interesting note, the second shirt in your images actually has mail rings sewn in those little rosettes. Hm...that could make a case for "ring-mail"...

That is right, it seems some were made with the rings and some without.
link to blog post about a reproduction

It appears as if each eyelet has a ring, and on the eyelets that are not worn you can not see the rings, how do we know that other examples are not constructed the same way?

[Tom B.]

Wow! That is an unbelievable amount of work in those garments. Interesting note, the second shirt in your images actually has mail rings sewn in those little rosettes. Hm...that could make a case for "ring-mail"...

That is right, it seems some were made with the rings and some without.
link to blog post about a reproduction

It appears as if each eyelet has a ring, and on the eyelets that are not worn you can not see the rings, how do we know that other examples are not constructed the same way?

Both examples I posted here have rings, the first one has brass rings.
A far as whether or not all extant pieces have rings, I am not 100% certain.
I have read accounts from people who have gotten to examine a few of these and they said that some did not have rings.
This should be easy to discern if you have hands on access to the object.

[Harry Marinakis]

Woah

[Tibbie Croser]

I don't think the old man in the white cap is wearing a "doublet full of holes," however. The posted eyelet doublets have the holes very close together and staggered from row to row, whereas the doublet in the painting has the holes relatively far apart and regularly aligned, not staggered. Also, the holes are separated by straight lines of stitching. In other words, the white-capped man might be wearing a doublet with holes, but it's not the type used as armor.

[Harry Marinakis]

I hate to ruin your day, but....

http://carlkop.home.xs4all.nl/armsandarmour/
Scroll down to PHOTOGRAPHIC IMPRESSIONS and there are dozens and dozens of links to Flickr pages similar to Andrea Carloni's Flickr pages.

You had nothing else to do for the next few years except look through these photos, right?

[Mac]

Thanks for that link, Harry!

I had not looked at Carl Koppeschaar's site since he first started it about a year ago. It has really come to be a remarkable resource!

Mac

[earnest carruthers]

'Wow! That is an unbelievable amount of work in those garments. Interesting note, the second shirt in your images actually has mail rings sewn in those little rosettes. Hm...that could make a case for "ring-mail"...'

1) I had the privilege of visiting Ian Ashdown's workshop in Switzerland many years back and he showed me a red velvet standard (mail neck guard) interwoven with the mail, it was a beautiful piece of work.

2) there is an SCA member in N Europe who made one, each ring stitched per those examples, she showed it at an event and the 'judges' simply carped that she hadn't managed to get the other sleeve on, the work was top drawer in every way.

[Tom B.]

More albums have been added to Andrea's Flickr account, he is now up to 121 albums:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrea_carloni/sets/

[MJBlazek]

Holy hell... what the heck is this?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrea_ca ... 014317655/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrea_ca ... 014317655/

[Keegan Ingrassia]

Well, here's the link to the description of the item.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrea_ca ... 014317655/

Seems that it was donated to the museum around 1875...judging from the nasal, and the very unique hinge, it is possibly a Victorian reconstruction.

[MJBlazek]

Yeah I don't speak/read Italian.
But I would agree with what you said.

But I never rule out the distinct possibilities of one off weird items.

[Tom B.]

Just a reminder to check back from time to time Andrea is constantly adding more great photos, he is now up to 161 albums of 14,587 photos:

Andrea Carloni's Flickr Albums

[Chris Gilman]

Looks like (correction) they killed Dr. Who.

[Chris Gilman]

Look at how nicely this mail is finished.
No floppy mail here.

[Tom B.]

I am almost finished looking through them all, again!

Here is another nice one.
Located at L'oratorio dei disciplini di Clusone, in val Seriana (provincia di Bergamo)
Dated to 1485 and painted by Giacomo Clusonese Borlone de Buschis.

(click on pic to open high resolution version)

[Tom B.]

He now has over 20k of photos.
It pays to go back and look on a regular schedule.

[Tom B.]

Time for my semi-annual

Andrea's unparalleled collection of images is now at over 22k.
It is by far the best resource of its type and it pays to revisit.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrea_carloni/albums