PDH thesis armour production (photo download links added)

[Steve S.]

Yup. If you unzip the file, you should not have any problems.

Put the .zip file in a folder. Right click and choose "Extract here". You will need PKZIP or 7zip or something like that installed on your computer.

Steve

[Chris Gilman]

I have the file unzipped and in a folder, I even moved files to same folders and used different unzip utilities, so that's not it. I suspect it's a setting in Acrobat (which I havnt found) as the document seems to work better on my laptop. Although it still makes the document difficult to read with it sometimes asking for 2 or 3 permissions to open files. Even turning off "safety" features doesn't seem to change that.
Amazing work though.
I'm tempted to reformat this with all the reference in place, crop & color correct the images and print myself a copy with my duplex printer, for my old fart reading preference.

[Armadillo]

Tormented here, knowing that this is available and my little computer could never handle such a file.

-Adair

[Sean Powell]

This might be of use to some people. I'm reading it now to see if i can disable the pop-ups.

http://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/secur ... robat.html

Edit: No luck. I followed the Adobe help tree until it refered me to the Adobe Forume. the Adobe forum has 3 threads covering this topic from 2011, 2012 and 2014. None are longer than the post asking the question and none have been resolved. I think at this point every click needs to be confirmed twice or someone needs to find a global security setting and turn it off.

Sorry,

Sean

Edit 2:

This helped but by cutting it down to 1 approve but not to 0.

Edit
Preferences {or just hit Ctrl+K}
Security (Enhanced)
Add File {near the lower left}
My Documents/goll2014_iron_documents/text/iron docu...blah, blah...pdf
Open
OK

May require restarting Adobe reader. This will cut out one of the security checks but I think the other check is part of windows and I only pretend to be a computer geek.

If anyone else figures out anything I'm listening.

Sean

[Keegan Ingrassia]

Well, that's obnoxious...thanks, Adobe. I'm about 60 pages in so far, and I really can't think of a better way to reference all the images, tables, and illustrations short of taking all of the files and building a book...or two books...one the thesis, the other a reference compilation. Then you could browse them side by side without interference. It'd probably be frowned upon if I used my time in the office to do that...

[Sean Powell]

Well, that's obnoxious...thanks, Adobe. I'm about 60 pages in so far, and I really can't think of a better way to reference all the images, tables, and illustrations short of taking all of the files and building a book...or two books...one the thesis, the other a reference compilation. Then you could browse them side by side without interference. It'd probably be frowned upon if I used my time in the office to do that...

Well after opening 1 picture in a series you can probably leaf through them in Windows Photo Viewer or whatever program you have... but it accesses the next and previous in alphabetical order which is nothing like the order you want. It's side-by-side (and on 2 monitors for me) but still a major PITA.

[Dan Howard]

There are a lot of PDF readers available. Many of them are free downloads. We don't have to be stuck using Adobe. Has someone had a better experience using one of these?

[Armadillo]

Ouch. I did some major surgery on my computer to make room for this. Now I can't extract the files with 7zip. I guess I may try downloading it again. It only took six hours the first time.

-Adair

[Signo]

Had no problem unzipping the file, I think I used winrar, and PDF files give me no problem on opening.
The problem with the sorting of the reference, is that they are probably ordered as he collected them, and not as they appear in the text, so you would often need to skip many hundreds files at once. Probably a software like Powerpoint could handle the job, but you would need to reference each file by hand, unless someone is able to write some program that is able to read the word you click on, and surf through the files to find the almost matching filename.

[Armadillo]

I had a successful 9 hour download and have managed to unzip the file. My goodness, this material is really excellent. The links in the document work smoothly enough if I right click and open them as a separate document in Adobe Acrobat. Two monitors would be ideal.

-Adair

[Aussie Yeoman]

I'm having an awfully hard time just downloading it, never mind accessing the content.

I consistently get about 200-300 MB downloaded before I get a Network Error, and am thereafter told to try again later. All for the same effect.

Anyone else have this problem?

[Dan Howard]

It took me three attempts to download it. It timed out before the first two completed

[J.G.Elmslie]

I did have some questions for those here that have used Oakeshott's Typology for swords. How well does the system work? In his thesis Dr. Gholl states that he has been able to determine trends through his typology. I just wonder if you would be able to get much out of a typology unless it's really fine-grained?

Oakeshott's typology...

Erm. Its pretty?
The pommels are quite nicely done?
the whole Roman Numeral / Arabic Numeral / Alphabet Letter sequence for blade / cross / pommel works as a very nice way of grouping parts in a way that is very easily followed.

Beyond that?
its fundamentally flawed, in that it only looks at the 2 dimensions of profile. Swords are not 2-dimensional - and more importantly, not a static object. A type XVII can be a vicious crowbar of a thick spike, or a narrow cutting blade with half the distal thickness, yet be identical by type. in that regard, its like saying a ferrari and a fiat are the same because they're both red.

There are *vast* areas to fault in oakeshott's typology (which I'm desperately trying to work out how to address for my own studies in asymmetric single-edged european arms. And I'm not even close to having a solution to.), but in all honesty, its great quality is in its simplicity, and the ease with which a general layman can look at a pair of XVs and a XIX, say, and quickly and easily differentiate them as groups. That is something that Geibig's typology, for instance, fails miserably at, unless you've got access to the item, a set of calipers, a calculator, and a load of graph paper. But as a study of the specific types that fall into its groups, Geibig's typology leaves Oakeshott dead in the water.

The problem is, is it a typology for the general public's consumption, or for a specialist with access to the archaeological objects? If its the former, then its Oakshott's work that leaves Geibig for dead...

To call it a messy conundrum might well be an understatement!
I honestly think that his typology is best as a framework to group similar forms, but beyond that, it rapidly loses its value.

[Jason Grimes]

Thanks Suzerain,

Your comments have confirmed some of my worries, but also Dr. Goll's typology just might work in many areas. Typing does appear to work well in numismatics although the number of metrics is much lower I would imagine. I just worry that to make the typology useful we will have to keep adding metrics in until it get too bulky to use?

[Dan Howard]

A typology can't work unless you can look at an item and tell which type it belongs to. It also needs to be clear and simple enough for someone on a forum like this to use the term and have everyone else know what he is talking about.

[Tom B.]

I have found several free programs that can extract JPEGs from PDFs.
Some even can be set up to do this on batches of several PDFs at once.
Unfortunatly all of them I have tried are unable to effeciently handle the huge number of images involved here. It is slow going and the program locks up frequently but I have about 25-30% of the images extracted.

[AriAnson]

Adobe Acrobat is terrible and bloated. I would recommend using Foxit Reader: http://www.foxitsoftware.com/

[Ckanite]

I'm a huge fan of Nitro Pro. A bit expensive though...

[Tom B.]

I have finally gotten around to reading some of the meat of the text.
Some very interesting stuff.

There are many many future AA threads in here
I may pick out a couple of topics and start the threads.

[Tom B.]

Here is a link to a Picasa Album where I am uploading some of the photos:

Photos from Goll's PHD Thesis

Eventually I will have all of the up there.
I may go back and redo these that have the watermark after I decide which program I want to purchase.

[Ernst]

Wow! Tom they're even more impressive when you can see them all at the same time. I suppose you could now hyper-link each reference in the pdf to the stored photo so they're only one click away instead of a click, a scroll, another click, another scroll....

[Tom B.]

Wow! Tom they're even more impressive when you can see them all at the same time. I suppose you could now hyper-link each reference in the pdf to the stored photo so they're only one click away instead of a click, a scroll, another click, another scroll....

That is too much work for me.
Maybe some person better with code could write something to automate that.

I am in the process of putting all of the PDF's, charts, tables & videos up on google drive.
My idea is that we could use these for our discussions here on the AA.
We can easily link to the photos and PDF's in our messages here.
It may be next week before I get it done but I have a few topics I want to kick off.

Here is a link to where the PDF's will be
Google Drive folder for Goll's Thesis

Most of the files are not there yet and some how I have duplicates.
Please don't link until I get the duplicates removed, I might remove the ones you link to.

[Tom B.]

Here is my first post using links to the PDF's I uploaded.

Goll's Thesis Topic #1: Mushroom Rivets and removable straps

[Sean M]

Does he have a chronological index? I would like to be able to see "anything which could date between X and Y" but I can't figure out how.

[Tom B.]

Sean,
I am afraid things are not orgaized that way.
Unless it is in one of his tables.
I have not really had a chance to devote much time to exploring the tons of info in this.

[Zanetto]

I am having difficulty accessing this file. I spent nine hours downloading it, and when I go to open the folder, it says the folder is empty. The folder is showing that it contains 3 gig of something. Anybody have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Rob

[Tom B.]

I am having difficulty accessing this file. I spent nine hours downloading it, and when I go to open the folder, it says the folder is empty. The folder is showing that it contains 3 gig of something. Anybody have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Rob

I will put the zip file up on my Google Drive, maybe you will have more luck with that.
When it is up I will edit this post to add a link.

Here is the Link

[Zanetto]

Thanks Tom! I'm looking forward to it.

Rob

[Tom B.]

Here is a link to a Picasa Album where I am uploading some of the photos:

Photos from Goll's PHD Thesis

Eventually I will have all of the up there.
I may go back and redo these that have the watermark after I decide which program I want to purchase.

I have uploaded more photos.
There is a limit of 2000 photos per picasa album so now I am up to three albums: :shock
I apologize for the duplication of some photos, I have eliminated 90%+ of the duplication but there still are some. This is mostly due to Goll using the same photos from multiple PDF's.

Photos from Goll's PHD Thesis Original link but now with 2000 photos
Goll's Thesis part 2
Goll's Thesis part 3

Just added these:
Goll's Illustrations

Goll's Thesis Part 4

[Zanetto]

Tom,

When I try and open pages 3 and 4 I get "page not found".

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Rob

[Tom B.]

Tom,

When I try and open pages 3 and 4 I get "page not found".

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Rob

That was my problem links should be fixed now.

Album #3 has lots of gauntlets
Album#4 has lots of bascinets

I have extracted over 10,300 photos from the first 2800 PDFs (out of a total of 5,146 PDFs).
There is quite a bit of duplication due to the way he has things structured. I had tried to eliminate these before my first 4 albums of uploads. I don't think I will be able to take the time to do this for the rest.

[Tom B.]

I am now up to 15k of photos and I have over 1000 more PDFs to extract photos from.

Being able to just flip through these is great.
I will try to finish up extracting in the next few days and get them all up loaded to Picasa albums by the end of the week.

[Keegan Ingrassia]

Tom, thanks a million for taking the time to do this. This is great.

[Tom B.]

Final count is 16159 photos!
A word of caution: There are fakes, reproductions, "repairs", associated parts, etc. mixed in.

[Mac]

There are fakes, reproductions, "repairs", associated parts, etc. mixed in.

Very true. It seems like Dr. Goll would rather err on the side of including fakes than excluding real objects that are disputed.

We could spend a lot of time discussing/arguing about individual pieces. That might be fun if we keep it civil.

Mac