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Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=PuccA ... es&f=false

History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo,_Count_of_Nevers
Odo of Burgundy (1230 – 4 August 1266) was Count of Nevers and Auxerre and the heir of Hugh IV, Duke of Burgundy. His mother was Yolande of Dreux. He died at Acre on 7 August 1266.
He never inherited the duchy, due to his death before his father; Burgundy was thereafter ruled by Odo's brother Robert.
1266 Inventory of Odo of Burgundy, Count of Nevers

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Item, une coute pointe de cendel vermoill, et i ceurcot noir.
Item, one short 'pointe' of vermillion cendal, and 1 black surcoat. (Perhaps clothing rather than armor.)

VII. Item, C'est de l’armeure:
7. This is of the armor:
ii paires de cuiraces nueves;
2 pairs of new cuirasses;
viii frains nues; et i mors de frain;
8 new bits and 1 jaw bit; (Nicolle shows frein)
viii paire d'esperons nues;
8 pairs of new spurs;
xi varengles nueuves;
11 new 'varengles'?; (Nicolle gives as 'varaingle' and proposes part of horse-harness.)
iiii cotes à armer, et iii barnières;
4 coat armors, and 3 banners; (as world antiques notes, in inventories, the coat armor or coat of arms is the heraldic surcoat.)
ii coutiaus et iiii fers de glaive;
2 knives, and 3 irons of glaives; (lanceheads)
ii fracoires nueves;
2 new 'fracoires'?;
ii testières à cheval, et i picière, et une paire de cuissiaus et de trumelières de fer;
2 testiers for the horse, and 1 piece?, and one pair of cuisses, and of schynbalds? of iron; (q.v. Sean M's posts.)
i bacinnet à gorgière de fer;
1 bascinet with gorget of iron; (mail collar? earliest mention of an aventail?)
i ganbaison;
1 gambeson;
unes couvertures blanches;
one white covering; (for the horse?)
i petit ganbaison sanz manches;
1 small gambeson without sleeves;
ii piaus blanches;
2 white 'piaus'
une paire de coffres;
one pair of coffers; (storage boxes?)
une grant gorgière de fer;
one big gorget of iron;

une male de cur, et ii paire de bouges;
i bahu et i bast;
(Also appears in “9. The Pantry” as ‘ii males i bahu et i bast’, so probably more furniture or storage.)
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Trumelles come up in the rule of the Paris armourers from 1296. Trumelières seem to be armour for the lower leg, like jambiers.
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Any clues as to the etymology or root-word for trummelles? trumm- ?

We already know of various spellings of genouillère for knee. Perhaps the difference between trumelières and jambiers is the difference between greaves and schynbalds, as suggested by Lacombe.
https://books.google.com/books?id=9iJXA ... es&f=false

The early date is more congruent with a defense only covering the front of the shin.
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Ernst wrote:Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=PuccA ... es&f=false

History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo,_Count_of_Nevers
Odo of Burgundy (1230 – 4 August 1266) was Count of Nevers and Auxerre and the heir of Hugh IV, Duke of Burgundy. His mother was Yolande of Dreux. He died at Acre on 7 August 1266.
He never inherited the duchy, due to his death before his father; Burgundy was thereafter ruled by Odo's brother Robert.

iiii cotes à armer, et iii barnières;
4 coat armors, and 3 banners;

The Complete Costume Dictionary, Elizabeth J. Lewandowski Scarecrow Press, 2011.
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Ernst wrote:Any clues as to the etymology or root-word for trummelles? trumm- ?

We already know of various spellings of genouillère for knee. Perhaps the difference between trumelières and jambiers is the difference between greaves and schynbalds, as suggested by Lacombe.
https://books.google.com/books?id=9iJXA ... es&f=false

The early date is more congruent with a defense only covering the front of the shin.
The body part is trumeau or trumel "shin, leg, 'ham' of the leg", and the armour part trumelière.
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From Facebook;
Giovanni Brambillasca wrote: To confirm the speculation about "i bahu et i bast", it resembles modern italian and french: bahut in french (or baule in Italian) means chest while bast is similar to the italian basto which is an old type of wooden saddle used to transport stuff on packhorses.
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