The Leather Parts of Gauntlets

[Arrakis]

http://dx.doi.org/10.1179/0079423615Z.00000000069

Unfortunately, the above link is broken: the page has been deleted from http://www.maandvandegeschiedenis.nl, the Google cache, and the Wayback Machine.

Hi Sean, the doi link works for me. Is that the link you said was broken? It leads, for me, to Taylor & Francis's page for the article "The Geoff Egan Memorial Lecture 2013 Taking up the glove: finds, uses and meanings of gloves, mittens and gauntlets in western Europe, c. AD 1300–1700" in Post-Medieval Archaeology, Volume 49, 2015 - Issue 1. The website, as is typical, offers options to purchase the article, though of course they're absurdly expensive. Perhaps someone with a University access to that Journal could help?

Hi Arrakis,

no, it was the Dutch website which the journal article cites to back up the statement "The gauntlet has been associated with the siege of Delft in 1359 because with the pieces of metal, small fragments of leather were preserved that were dated by accelerator mass spectometry to 1340–70."

I quoted the key part of the journal article so people without access to a big university library could read it. I would be happy if someone with real leatherworking skills took these academic books and articles and made some 14th/15th century style gloves.

Ahh, I see. Yeah, it's pretty weird, at least in the circles I run in, to publish a journal article with a non-archival link to a random museum's website as a citation.... Maybe someone who knows Dutch can contact them. Their website seems to lack all collection information nowadays and serves pretty much as an ad saying "plz visit our museum".

[Sean M]

Ahh, I see. Yeah, it's pretty weird, at least in the circles I run in, to publish a journal article with a non-archival link to a random museum's website as a citation.... Maybe someone who knows Dutch can contact them. Their website seems to lack all collection information nowadays and serves pretty much as an ad saying "plz visit our museum".

yeah, I would only use a citation of that form to acknowledge someone ("I thank Joe Blow and his blog randomstuff.com for pointing out that this is a Ruritanian flibbertigibbet not a Belgravian furstenwrangler as the site report suggests") not to support a claim ("three Ruritanian flibbertigibbets were found at this site (Joe Blow, randomstuff.com/12345.html).").

There is a book by Willemsen on gloves and mittens which I have not read (not in our library, I am unemployed and have washed my hands of glove research): Annemarieke Willemsen, Honderden… Van hand tot hand: handschoenen en wanten in de Nederlanden voor 1700. Spa uitgevers B.V.: Leiden, 2015. ISBN-13 9789089321275.

If someone could flip through it and add their comments to this thread, that would be great.

[Mac]

There is a book by Willemsen on gloves and mittens which I have not read (not in our library, I am unemployed and have washed my hands of glove research): Annemarieke Willemsen, Honderden… Van hand tot hand: handschoenen en wanten in de Nederlanden voor 1700. Spa uitgevers B.V.: Leiden, 2015. ISBN-13 9789089321275.

If someone could flip through it and add their comments to this thread, that would be great.

I've got a copy, but my Nederlands is very rudimentary. I'll have another look at the book and try to make some relevant comments later today.

Mac

[Sean M]

Hi Mac, I would appreciate it. I was hoping that this thread would inspire someone to take people's research and make some gloves.

Sorting through books and articles and photos for the good 'uns takes different energy than taking the sources and building an interpretation.

[Tom B.]

I have been working on patterning and making some split mittens based several archeological finds.

FaceBook Post from Back in April

Here are some Instagram posts from October where I finally started making one from real leather.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpdhhzqgzT4 ... hare_sheet

I will work on posting the photos here directly when I get some time on my computer.

[Mac]

There is a book by Willemsen on gloves and mittens which I have not read (not in our library, I am unemployed and have washed my hands of glove research): Annemarieke Willemsen, Honderden… Van hand tot hand: handschoenen en wanten in de Nederlanden voor 1700. Spa uitgevers B.V.: Leiden, 2015. ISBN-13 9789089321275.

If someone could flip through it and add their comments to this thread, that would be great.

I've got a copy, but my Nederlands is very rudimentary. I'll have another look at the book and try to make some relevant comments later today.

Mac

OK.... Let's see what I can say here.

This book, like the others in the series, is an effort to contextualize objects in Dutch collections. Many of the objects are archeological, and there is a catalog of them in the back. The book also includes gloves and mittens which have survived above ground.


The chapters describe different sorts of gloves and mittens from different time periods. The oldest ones are from Ancient times, and the most recent ones are Early Modern. There is a chapter on bifurcate mittens (gespleten wanten) which includes some archeological examples, some examples for art, and nice view of the gauntlets from Engelbert II van Nassau's 1530 alabaster effigy.

There is a chapter on gauntlets, which includes some pics of fragments I have not seen elsewhere.

This book will not tell you how to make medieval gloves, but it will give you valuable information about the cut of historical gloves.

Anyone interested in medieval gloves and mittens should really have a copy of this book.

Macc