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Chains and Strips of Mail

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Over on corporate social media there is a chat about the men in the 15th and 16th century who wore chains or strips of mail along the arms and legs to stop cuts. Its not all that common in art, maybe it was one of those things which new soldiers tried out and old soldiers decided was clever but not worth the bother. What are the sources?

Post-Mortem Inventory of John fitz Marmaduke (d. 1311) j gaimbeson rubeum cum tribus cathenis argentis here

1425 Breton ordonnance for the franc-archers c/o ThegGhost Hero (published where? somewhere on https://portail.atilf.fr/ - This site for reenactors says that duke Jean V of Britany created his own franc-archers on 20 March 1425 - seems to be in Diderot's Encyclopedie from the 18th century)
et soint armez de fors jacques, garniz de laisches, chesnes ou mailles pour couvrir les braz,

And they shall be armed with strong jacks, garnished with laisches, chains, or mail to cover the arms.
Memling's St. Ursula

Durer's Paumgartner Altarpiece with St. Eustace in the GNM München

English account of the Battle of Pinkie in 1547
(The Scots were) all clad alike in jacks covered with white leather, doublets of the same or of fustian and most commonly all white hose. Not one with either chain, brooch, ring or garment of silk that I could see, unless chains of latten drawn four of five times along the thighs of their hose and doublet sleeves for cutting; and of that sort I saw many. This vileness of port (ie. appearance), was the cause that so many of their great men and gentlemen were killed and so few saved. The outward show, the semblance and sign whereby a stranger might discern a villein from a gentleman was not among them to be seen.
Calendar of State Papers Foreign, Elizabeth, Volume 5, 1562. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1867.
20 Dec. Entry 1301. Vaughan to Cecil. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/foreign/vol5/pp559-581
1. Cecil will receive from Mr. Marshall the certificate for such armour as the captains received from the countries. Of this armour the writer delivered to Mr. Ponyngs ninety-four corslets, fourteen jacks and sleeves stripped with mail, and all his arquebuses saving twelve, for which he [Vaughan] gave him 9l. which he had received of the Halls, for furnishing of them at the rate of 10s. an arquebus and flask, and the morions at 5s. each, of which armour Ponyngs had 200.
Report of England made by Giovanni Michiel, late Ambassador to Queen Mary and King Philip, to the Venetian Senate, on the 13th May 1557
e per la persona ovvero qualche petto di corsaletto che arma la parte dinanzi benchè meschina mente ovvero più volentieri quelli massime che uè hanno il modo qualche giaco o camicia di maglia; ma l' uso più frequente è di alcuni giubboni di canevaccio imbottiti a molti doppj alti due dita e più riparo tenuto sicurissimo contro la furia delle freccie e sopra le braccia alcune liste di maglia per il lungo e non altro

..... and for the body they either use some sort of breastplate (qualche petto di corsaletto) which guards the forepart, although indifferently, or else more willingly (especially those who have the means) some jack (zacco) or shirt of mail; but what they usually wear are certain canvas doublets, quilted with many layers, each of which is two inches or more in thickness; and these doublets are considered the most secure defence against the shock of arrows. Upon their arms they place strips of mail, put lengthways, and nothing else.
Jost Amman, Ständebuch (1568) here
I am a foreign mail-maker,
I make the steel mail shirts,
Also mail sleeves and mail strips, (Pantzer Ermel vnd Pantzerstrich)
Which one wears, open and secretly,
Also of mail good steel collars,
I can also roll and burnish mail,
Where it gets overrun with rust,
Midias founded mail-making.
John Smythe, Certen instructions, obseruations and orders militarie (printed 1594 after some troubles with the censor)
Then▪ I woulde that they (ie. doublets) should be narrow in the shoulders, & so smal in the sleeues, and with so little bumbast, that the vambrases of armed men might easilie close togither; and that archers vsing no vambrases but certen stripes of serecloth or maile within their sleeues to defend the cut of a sworde, might through the smalnesse of their sleeues easilie draw and shoot, without the string hitting vpon any part of the sleeue, but onelie vpon their bracers.
"Chesnes de fer" and "Cliques de fer" in French sources, "chaynes of latten" in English/Scottish sources (here is one source from 1473 with cliques de fer, not sure how to translate that)

What else? is there a Pinterest? I don't have a lot of energy for this right now.

Verififi, Single Splint Limb Armor (jack chains) on Pinterest https://www.pinterest.ca/verififi/singl ... ck-chains/

I am told that some British cavalrymen in India in the 19th century tried this trick (and some epaulettes had steel plates in them as a kind of defense against cuts I think).
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Re: Chains and Strips of Mail

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Is there a reason to think the fitz Marmaduke inventory refers to defensive chains rather than weapon retention chains?
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Have you seen weapon retention chains on an aketon or as early as 1311? I agree that there are many different ways to interpret an aketon with three silver chains, rich people had clothes with all kinds of gold and silver bling.

Edit: Markgraf Rudolf IV von Baden-Durlach (d. 1348) seems to wear this type of bracer over his hauberk
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I have several depictions of mail stripes
1001018 Adalbert der Sieghafte, Babenberger-Stammbaum, Part Hans, 1489-1492, Klosterneuburg, Österreich.jpg
Aufbruch_nach_Island_Handschriftenabteilung_Hundeshagenscher_Kodex.jpg
Werkstatt oder Umkreis Wolfgang Katzheimers d.Ä., Vorderseite- Kalvarienberg; Rückseite- Zwei Engel mit dem Schweißtuch der Veronika, um 1480 90.jpg
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Dürer, Paumgartner Altar.jpg
ca. 1500 - 'Mont des Oliviers' (Veit Wagner), Cathédrale, Strasbourg, France2.jpg
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maria_schnee_ritter_1.jpg
Dürer, the battle of the angels, 1498.jpg
7012450 Kreuztragung Christi, 1508-1517, Levoca, Slowakei, Pfarrkirche St. Jakob.jpg
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Solothurn Fechtbuch Cod.S.554_001.jpg
Solothurn Fechtbuch Cod.S.554_015.jpg

and some mail stripes on the gloves
Holbein d. J., Hans, Passionsaltar.jpg
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