The Armour Archive

My harness is coming together nicely and should be finished by the end of summer but i have very little in the way of garb.
Who out there makes coathardies for men that look good.
-T

Well, I'm kind of an ugly man, but if I did look good I'd still get my coathardies from Historic Enterprises




J

I'll leave it to you to decide if this fits your definition of "good" -

[img]http://www.historicenterprises.com/bsd/imgs/outfits/he-p14b.jpg[/img]

Copied from the effigy of Walter Helyon, franklin of Marcle, c. 1355-60 (Oak effigy, church of St Bartholomew, Much Marcle, Herefordshire).

Sizes S (40 chest) , M (42 chest), L (44 chest), and XL (46 chest).
Wool or linen lined in linen. (wool shown)
Pewter or self buttons.
Contact us for fabrics available as selection varies.
$200 in stock sizes listed, custom sizes available for slightly higher.

Gwen
Black Swan Designs
historic@pacbell.net

Actually, Valentine Armouries sells a "cotehardie" also:

"Cotehardie, King Henry 5th style, twill cotton-blend. Button decoration on lower sleeves, front closure with brass grommets and leather lacing. Machine wash. $131.00 "

See it here, along with some other 14th C. costume items:

http://www.varmouries.com/cloth/ccloth03.html

Gwen

I've been salivating over that item since you posted on the firestryker board Gwen. Its a very spiffy garment.

I was wondering if you have an arm and body length on those in stock sizes. I'm enough of a physical odd ball that I'd need to check those measurements out... besides, I thought the question would serve as a well deserved...

*BUMP*

J

I have one of Gwens tunics from waaaaaaaay back in the day, it still looks good. I on the other hand have um... weathered somewhat.

Hi Janos-

I didn't want you to think I was ignoring your question. I'm working on the patterns today and tomorrow, and we're shooting for "average" sleeve lengths, i.e. the sleeve and body length of a 42 Regular suit as opposed to 42 Long or 42 Short. Until we get these patterns done I can't tell you what the measurements are.

Remember that even if you're not a stock size we can accomodate most custom order needs. Please be realistic about your body shape when you write me though, as this style is going to look best on an athletic build, or at least on a body that has a smaller waist than chest measurement. FYI, Greg (in the picture) is about 6" tall, 165#, 38" chest, 32" waist, and I'd say he has the absolute perfect body shape to achieve that long, painfully thin 14th C. look- no wonder I used him as a model! This is not a good style for anyone who is portly around the middle, although it will look fine on tall/big or small men.

Gwen

Gwen, just out of curiosity, purely in the pursuit of knowledge, is there a 14th century garment that would be flattering on those more robustly figured?

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Well, I'm not gwen, and I will admit that her library of knowledge exceeds mine. The following are some pics from costumes.org, the first is from a post period source, the second is a pic of a mans garment from the herjolfnes site





For more, look here: http://www.costumes.org/pages/timelinepages/14thcent1.htm

I think the G63 gown from Herjolfsnes looks good on a man with a "dignified" phsique. It is an exaggerated trapezoid which means it goes out from the point of the shoulder. The sleeves are different, but it winds up looking a lot like the gown in the first plate, which I'd bet is from Braun & Schneider.

Gwen

Though, Torr, I'd seriously recommend dropping the extra cash to have it fitted to your size... this is a huge step up from what was offered, but if your portrayal is courtly, you need it tailored. Now, if you're part of retinue, or something on those lines, not a big deal, because you'd get castoffs as part of the lord's largesse, anyway.

Gwen, Anna showed me this a while ago... this is a major, major step up... if I'm ever converted away from Cumanhood, we will come to you for a package deal..