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Is this basinet based on historical examples
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:24 pm
by brunoG
I have found this basinet online, if i'm not wong it is a deepeka piece.
Is it based on an actual helmet or is it a fantasy piece?
http://cgi.ebay.it/SCA-Helm-German-Bass ... dZViewItem
The lower part of the visor looks more like an item out of Star Wars but one never knows, the past can show some surprisingly modern facets.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:35 pm
by brunoG
For example this is a basinet kept at Monselice (Padua)
More morbid lines though
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:51 pm
by Brian W. Rainey
I have not seen an authentic bascinet like that.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:02 pm
by brunoG
Brian W. Rainey wrote:I have not seen an authentic bascinet like that.
The one in Monselice is in the count Cini collection, I guess you mean the repro.
I find it very strange at best but I believe found somewhere that it was made on suggestion of a famous american vendor-reenactor.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:35 pm
by Alcyoneus
I think this is a second-cousin to the Pigs in Space helm.
It looks part standard India bascinet, and part Gladiator helm (the chin area).
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:39 pm
by Syrfinn
Nah, its the duck-billed platypus bascinet.
It does come close the the one in te collection, but looks like they got the point to small, so it stands out more.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:36 pm
by Ivo
The term "dickhead" gets a whole new meaning with that bascinetoid
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:36 pm
by Brian W. Rainey
brunoG wrote:Brian W. Rainey wrote:I have not seen an authentic bascinet like that.
The one in Monselice is in the count Cini collection, I guess you mean the repro.
I find it very strange at best but I believe found somewhere that it was made on suggestion of a famous american vendor-reenactor.
Yep, I meant the goofy repro one.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:37 am
by brunoG
I'm having a god laugh.
The Pigdick Fantasy Star Wars Bassinet is officially born.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:15 am
by Signo
It doesn't meet the requirements of shape and function.
It's oversimplified and this oversemplification make it a total crap.
There are plenty of flat spots facing the opponent, it would be too easy to thrust a point in the face with success.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:59 am
by brunoG
Signo wrote:It doesn't meet the requirements of shape and function.
It's oversimplified and this oversemplification make it a total crap.
There are plenty of flat spots facing the opponent, it would be too easy to thrust a point in the face with success.
Not to mention the fact that stilistically it is eons away from anything antique.
Sometimes however we can vae surprises and find modern looking old tools.
BTW, have you considerd a trip to Monselice?
For me it is a great location for a reenacting event.
A marvellus castle on a hill.
It should be very close to my home and not too far from yours.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:12 am
by Signo
I always though that, everytime I pass nearby going to Padova, I plan to stop there sometime, but never had a chance until now.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:56 am
by Baron Alejandro
Signo wrote:It doesn't meet the requirements of shape and function.
It's oversimplified and this oversemplification make it a total crap.
There are plenty of flat spots facing the opponent, it would be too easy to thrust a point in the face with success.
That was my thought. I'm no authority on faceplates, but I took one look at that repro and thought "Man! That would
catch shots. No way." I'd *almost* rather go into a fight barefaced.