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A custom tool from the designers blue prints.
It is under construction but comming along fine.

A bender anvil I think, I just try to make it as close to the plans as I can.
This is a tool for trade.
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I had to make an extra strong tool holder and find the ballance point.
So far so good... needs some touch up and TLC, but I ran out of welding wire and grinder disks.

Hope he likes it.

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nice tool Hal
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Daddy like!
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Unfortunately, the bending forked snagged the coyote's tail just as he dropped it over the cliff as the roadrunner approached...

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That is a good idea. I have to stamp my makers mark anyway.
I have some letter stamps. ;-)
ACME
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I tested the bender rods and they work great.
They also act like a tuining fork when hammering on it.
Perhaps an add on damper when not in use?
Easy enough, just a plate with two 1" holes in it.
Slide it on or off.

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That is REALLY sweet, and my hands are twitching, wanting to play with it.
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How much does it weigh?
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Hi Galileo,

I finished tonight and it weighs 42 pounds.
It is a welded composite of steel plate, pipe, sand and rods.
24-1/2" by 9" by 4"

If ya want to know how it's made:
In my past I was a machinist, draftsman, designer, inventor and engineer.
All that assisted me in this construction.

As for my self taught welds, I was fortunate to work with a journeyman welder.
I paid very close attention to what he was doing.
He taught me jigs, fixtures and how to lay stuff out.

I really don't want to do another of these.
This shit is getting too heavy for me.
This was a special request and a trade... I hope it goes well for both of us.
Because I always say... "I love it when a plan comes together".

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Now to build a plywood crate and put it on the UPS truck.
This for sure will not fit in a flat rate box. ;-)
Yes, the anvil is separate from the tool holder.
But will be shipped together.

Hal

PS: It quit humming with the sand fill, it has a nice hammer ping against a solid mass.
I like it.
Is this what you needed Fred?
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The finish is planished to impart a dregee of work hardining into the 1018 mild steel.
Besides... no one wants to be the first to ding a tool, so I took the liberty. ;-)

That is a 3/16" rivet divot as requested, 1" from the back on the center line.
I made it with a 1/2" ball mill in my drill press.
Works great to hold the rivet head while peening inside.

Hal

PS: Capt. I could not in fair conscious use the ACME name, as it is a historical anvil and I have no ownership to the namesake or use thereof.
I do not know how the Road Runner got away with it.
Perhape he should find a better vendor as all the ACME stuff gets him killed.
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I wonder if cutting one leg of the tuning fork shorter than the other will kill the harmonic effect. Probably have to go with a ratio of 2 prime numbers though. I no harmonics expert.

Looks like great work though! I may ask for a custom bodkin anvil with a tree-spike in the future. A flat section, a half-round channel for the socket and a 10 degree tapered cone to true up the socket. It's only a half-formed idea though but this gives me inspiration.

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Your killing me Sean... This project kicked my ass.
Now you want me to weld two pieces of quarter round into a tool socket?
I know... I still owe you a favor for that cool shallow dish you sent me.
Send me your drawings.

You know... there is nothing like a big block of steel to pound on.
I never got into the foundry buisness with my tools due to logistics and up front cost.
I miss the old days when I worked in a foundry machine shop, but did not know what armouring tools were.

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Dude, I want one!
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Halberds wrote:Your killing me Sean... This project kicked my ass.
Now you want me to weld two pieces of quarter round into a tool socket?
I know... I still owe you a favor for that cool shallow dish you sent me.
Send me your drawings.

You know... there is nothing like a big block of steel to pound on.
I never got into the foundry buisness with my tools due to logistics and up front cost.
I miss the old days when I worked in a foundry machine shop, but did not know what armouring tools were.

Hal
You don't owe me any favors. That was scrap metal in my basement. If I throw a custom design at you it will be because you reviewed the design and found it acceptably designed for manufacturing and it will fit in a flat rate box. I'm not crazy, just a little off-kilter. :)

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Mark it "ACNE" and see if anybody notices! :wink:

Pedantic note: It's Wile E. Coyote who suffers when his schemes involving anvils misfire. The road runner just minds his own business for the most part, or intervenes in a minimal way to precipitate the coyote's downfall. :D
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Any reason it needs to fit in a tool holder? that kind of weight can sit on a table all by itself :D
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It was what the client wanted.
His drawn up design included a 1" square shank.
I tossed the tool holder in as a bonus.
One would not want that falling out of the vice. ;-)

Accdntprone, that is Bigfredb's custom design.
I do have this test piece left over though.
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Ready to ship, less the tool holder.

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Hal,

If you wish to inflict it upon yourself, feel free to use the design as you see fit. I turn over all rights to you, Hal.
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Lovely work, Hal. :D

I just got some square stock to hopefully make myself some creasing stakes.
I've been somewhat hesitant to do them, as I have not yet done any creasing, and therefor do not know what the stake heads should really look like...

It will be a learning experience.... 8)

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Thank you Mr. Big,

I was trying to get out of making any more. ;-)
Will you show our members my new web page?

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Badger,

Start grinding and using scrap sheet metal to make some creases and flutes.
Modify the width and curve of your tool, as well as the angle of attack.
Soon you will have a shape you can use to do what you need.
That is how I designed most of my tools.
I used to get good results from a ground RR spike. ;-)
It really is... all in the hammer and how you use it.
Most guys clamp a chisel in the vice and do damn well.

Then heat treat the final design and go to town.

Hal

PS: A creaser is a totaly different toot from a fluting stake.
This a hydraulic press tool, it makes creases:
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Or by hand:
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Most creases are done on the inside and cleaned up on the outside.
Most flutes are done over the outside with a nice polished and shaped hammer.

What sort of creaser do you want to make?
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Hal,

If you want to put on your thinking cap:

There is a blacksmithing tool called a guillotine fuller. It works as a 3rd hand and usually fits in a hardy-hole (or square tool holder I suppose). The basic purpose is to hold 2 parallel cylinders above each other so a smith can forge a fuller in the top and bottom at the same time and not warp a blade. The best ones have interchangeable workpieces so you can have the cylinders perpendicular or parallel to the work piece, 1 cylinder above 2, 2 above 2, blunted chisel above 2 cylinders, chisel above chisel, 2 concave half-rounds, spike above hole, any matching positive/positive, any positive/negative shapes or even matched negative/negative shapes. Additionally, some times it's nice if the chisel is spring loaded down so it finds the groove it is supposed to cut and other times it's nice if the fuller cylinders etc are spring loaded apart so the workpiece moves easily.

I've always thought they would be useful for armoring as well as blacksmithing.

I've seen cheap single-purpose version built in a number of fast and cheap ways but they weren't very good. I've seen good ones but they weren't fast or cheap.

The man who invents a better guillotine tool will rule the world... or at least sell a few until someone starts knocking off the design in Mexico.

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Thanks for the tool pics.
I have been drawing one for gaunt thumb and finger tips.
I am caught up on my orders, I should give some of my prototype designs a go.

I also have drawings and materials to make belt plack stamped pieces, diamonds and squares.
Got in a tuffel with a member a while back, as she thought I was intruding on her buisness.
I really do not think one has ownership to a 14C design.
However, I do respect professional courtesy.

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Ironbadger wrote:Lovely work, Hal. :D

I just got some square stock to hopefully make myself some creasing stakes.
I've been somewhat hesitant to do them, as I have not yet done any creasing, and therefor do not know what the stake heads should really look like...

It will be a learning experience.... 8)

-Badger-
OK... this is the most basic square stock creasing tool I can think of:

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It is simply a piece of square stock at 45 ° welded to an upright shank.
Be sure to round the outside corners to provide a smooth transition into your work piece.

Best of luck on your quest.

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I had to make a UPS shipping crate for the anvil.
If have to spend all afternoon making a fucking crate... I wanted to drink beer have some fun.
I faked some black spray paint hinges and a hasp for shits and giggles.
The patina is chain hammered and brown spray paint on a screwed together pine box.
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After this dries out I could add some highlights.
Muhahahahaha...........

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:D you could have added a painted on brass plate with R I P on it :D :twisted:
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CAUTION
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Only open in sunlight

Then screw a wooden spike to the top as a carry handle.
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Ya know it did sorta of look like I was laying it to rest.
Boxed up and ready to go ;-)
Boxed up and ready to go ;-)
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