Riveting inside helmets

Ogedei · Post by **Ogedei** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:07 am

Hey everyone.

I find myself in need of repairing the brasswork on my helm, several of the rivets have popped out. I am looking for advice on the best way to rivet them on the inside of my helmet. I am sure you are all aware getting a hammer into a finished helm is quite akward.

Thanks in advance

Alcyoneus · Post by **Alcyoneus** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:03 am

If you are using brass rivets, you could use a smaller ball pein than if you used steel rivets. There isn't really any trick, it's just a pain. [img]http://forums.armourarchive.org/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

Rizzo · Post by **Rizzo** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:41 am

You need a really long ball pein of do-it-yourself construction.

Then, of course, you could peen em from the outside if you are good at shaping the shank [img]http://forums.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Damian · Post by **Damian** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:51 am

Try using a picking hammer.

Hrogn · Post by **Hrogn** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:18 am

Hey Ogedei

If you have a railroad spike, that works. Also if you have something like a shotput, you can use it to bash with. Kinda a bit caveman-ish but it does work. But I guess that at the end of the day, caveman, Mongol, what's the difference? ;-)

Hrogn

Brian W. Rainey · Post by **Brian W. Rainey** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:20 am

I often use a small ball stake... can't remember who told me that one.

It works beautifully.

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:19 am

I'll second the use a ball-stake as a hammer stunt. You can also cut a cup in the end of a piece of steel that matches the rivet head to make a rivet stake. Use the stake to drive the rivet down against a ball stake and it will faler on the inside. The cup end keeps you from mis-shaping the rivet head and keeps the hammer away from work piece. Beware, this is a 3 handed job minimum. 1 Hammer, 1 rivet-set and 1-2 for the helm.

Good luck, Happy hammering
Sean

Mad Matt · Post by **Mad Matt** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:51 pm

I've got two different ball piens for peening rivits inside stuff. One just has the ball end and the other end is cut off at the handle. The other one has a 6" long bar welded between the ball and the rest of the handle. Both mighty usefull hammers.

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Ogedei · Post by **Ogedei** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:35 pm

My expriments last night turned out that my light dumbbell sans vinyl anvil thingy did a pretty decent job of peening the brass rivets. Only did one cause I was exprimenting at like midnight [img]http://forums.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Red Dragon · Post by **Red Dragon** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:05 am

I actually had a custom hammer made for this purpose. The blacksmith did an excellent job of turning part of a car front suspension into a hammer to my design. Unfortunately, I designed it slightly wrong. I need to get it altered one of these days.

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Donngal · Post by **Donngal** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:36 pm

Ball stake works well

Donnghal