14 Century helmet with a nasal

mackenzie · Post by **mackenzie** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:51 am

Does anyone know of other 14C helmets with a Nasal?

Mackenzie

William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:19 am

Yep. Bacinets had them in the early 14th century.

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_spot_bascinet.html

And I had one made for me: http://wildarmoury.com/product_info.php ... cts_id=150

Ernst · Post by **Ernst** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:17 pm

There are a few similar examples in the BNF's St. Denis manuscripts of 1317.

http://www.thearma.org/essays/SandB/fre ... tDenis.JPG

mackenzie · Post by **mackenzie** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:29 pm

Thanks!

I am looking for sources with nasals that are part of the helmet brow or rigidly attached like the image from BNF's St. Denis manuscript. I did a bit of a "brain fart" and forgot about the bretache style padded nasals. : )

Mackenzie

William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:19 pm

bretache! Thats the damn word I was thinking of...

Galfrid atte grene · Post by **Galfrid atte grene** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:40 pm

Any additional info out there about this helm style? All the art seems to show lesser men at arms wearing 'em. Also, I'm pretty darn sure that no effigies or brasses that depict a helm like this.

Ernst · Post by **Ernst** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:41 am

mackenzie wrote:Thanks!

I am looking for sources with nasals that are part of the helmet brow or rigidly attached like the image from BNF's St. Denis manuscript. I did a bit of a "brain fart" and forgot about the bretache style padded nasals. : )

Mackenzie

There's always the semi-fixed "klapp-nasal" images from St. Abbondio.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3622/349 ... ee4d_o.jpg

Carnifex- · Post by **Carnifex-** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:38 am

MAybe you can get some high resolution pictures somewhere, but in those two pictures there is at least one soldier wearing kettle hat with eye cut outs resulting in a nasal on the deep brimmed hat. The paintings are northern Italian of the late 14th century.

Primvs Pavlvs · Post by **Primvs Pavlvs** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:34 am

The one thats in the Landesmuseum in Zurich is removable. I have tried three times to get photos of this helmet, but I have been unable to all three times. The nasal is very unique in design with holes drilled/punched into the lower edge for breathing. I have not seen this feature on any other helmets from the period.