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I took a groin shot in my cup so stout it ruptured one of my testicles. The guy was fighting two-sword, and I was fighting heater and sword. During the fight he used his left hand sword to throw a shot at my leg, which I stepped back to avoid, but did not bring my shield up to block for some reason, and it narrowly missed my my leg and hit the side of my cup full force with the tip. I face planted on the deck right there, because it was a doozy.

I was unaware that it had ruptured at the time, and did at least one more bout before deciding my body was just not up to it and went home to ice it up. I figured I was just being a wuss about my junk hurting. 16 hours later (I was stubborn and didn't want to go to the hospital until basically forced by my girlfriend )I was in the emergency room getting an ultrasound on my bozack (big thumbs up for the Fairfax hospital warming up their ultrasound goo first). After 5 hours of poking the pooch in the ER, they rushed, and I do mean rushed, me into surgery when they figured out what was going on.

The Doc was able to save it, thank God, but now the scar I have makes my balls look like are frowning.

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That speaman was me :)

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Adamo,

That spearman was me :)

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Mine comes from the Bear pits of Birka.

It was my first time, first tourney even, if Birka can really be called a tourney, more like a meat grinder.

anyway, all I was authed in was greatsword, so that's what I fought.
I was fighting this really tall guy, and just happened to sidestep a head shot when he reversed it to try and catch me in the leg.
Missed my leg and managed to smack my nuts square on, wedging the cup up against my right thigh....

That was my last fight of the day. I sat around for about an hour before I could even work up the energy to take my armor off.

He was very apologetic about it though, and even offered to reject it as a hit.

I might have taken him up on that if I didn't feel like my balls were trying to burrow their way into my stomach. :lol:
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I have to believe that every male fighter who has been doing this for any amount of time has been hit in the jewels at least once. Reading some of these stories about expolding cups and nuts lodged in your throat has convinced me that my next purchase will be a Nutty Buddy....
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So who wants to make the most tank STEEL codpiece in all the knowne world after reading this thread?
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Well, let's see....
- there was a local fighters practice in a guys back yard where one of the dukes who was there seemed to be just a bit off in his targeting that night as I think he hit most of us in the cup at least once. Well, later on in the practice said duke is fighting another duke, and he hit the other duke hard enough that things stopped for him for that night. He went to the hospital on the way home.

- there was the tourney about ten years ago where two really stout guys were fighting polearm. Instead of the cry of good and the guy falling down there was a bit of a "yip" and a yell, followed by a mess of guys standing in a circle around one of the combatants. Seems he'd been hit in the cup hard enough that it broke...open...and closed up again. Yes, there was blood.
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After hearing postive reviews from people who used a greathelm and a smallhelm, I am half tempted to make a greatcup and a smallcup. However since smallcup sounds too diminuitive, I would call them a greatcup and an awesomecup.
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It was the year before they bulldozed the awesome original broken field at Estrella. You know the one with all the nice ravines you could hide a brigade in?

So I've got a pollaxe and wound up cutoff from my unit. I am just about to crest a ridge when two guys come flying over it one sword and board the other a greatsword. The greatsword does a classice unterhauh (uppercut) into my jewels at a dead run! :shock: I blacked out for a second, and then the world became a strange flavor of screaming hyperventalation.

His buddy yelled at him and he said something about "Hey it's legal" and kept going (of course its NOT legal at a dead run like that!) his buddy came back and helped me off the ground and off field (quite a ways)or I might still be out there...

I laid around for a bit then got back into it as ity was early in the day.
Fighting ended suited down and I did the usual things you do on a Sat. night at Estrella. Got up in the morning ands started to suit up. Pulled my cup out of the bag and it was spiderwebbed! Totally shattered! :shock: Very glad I had a spare.

The only thing holding that thing together was the rubber rim...if I had gotten hit their again it would have caused all of thos pieces to...well I don't like to think about it.

When I got home I bought a hockey goal cup.
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LeeC wrote:The greatsword does a classice unterhauh (uppercut) into my jewels at a dead run! :shock: I blacked out for a second, and then the world became a strange flavor of screaming hyperventalation.

His buddy yelled at him and he said something about "Hey it's legal" and kept going (of course its NOT legal at a dead run like that!) ...


Actually it is legal to swing a sword at someone when running and at the jewels. It isn't nice or friendly but it is legal. :cry:
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I thought I would share this as it was thoughtfully captured on a cell phone by an onlooker, it was considered quite mirthful around the campfire later that evening... as I iced down my marbles.

Maybe I should set the stage, local small scale war. I had helped several new fighters get into enough gear. One of these was a lady who I helped get ready for the war by making a naginata and helped pad her helm. I saw that they gave her the end of a pike line and I thought I would be able to unzip the line using my heroic vault over the hay bails while dispatching my new friend and her nagi and all of her comrades. Many said that it would have been quite a dramatic attack if it had not ended as it did. She literally out of nowhere adjusts and plants her nagi in my groin mid-leap, knocking me out of the air and ending my athletic, heroic, devastating jump in me crying.

This photo was taken just as I was hit or milliseconds after, she is in the red helm. Morwen Fellreach was the hero of that day... grumble grumble
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Count Johnathan wrote:
Actually it is legal to swing a sword at someone when running and at the jewels. It isn't nice or friendly but it is legal. :cry:


When I first started fighting I was shocked to find out cup shots were legal.

I was told they were not a good idea because if I get a reputation for cupping people on purpose some 300 pound Duke with arms the size of a tree trunk will decide to give me a taste of my own medicine one day.

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I got a couple.

#1- On his last practice, and last fight, before going off to China Lake to do his dream job, a newly authorized fighter came against me. I threw a shot for his gut. I was guiding off his shield, he lowered it to block and I lowered to continue the strike. When it landed it was N.B.C. "Nuthin' But Cup" with some 8in left in the thrust. He teleported to his knees some 4 ft away. I said " I didn't?!", in a high voice he say's "You did!". Lovely present to send him off with.

#2- Some years back at a Reno Celtic Fair demo at Wingfield Park I was explaining how the SCA armoured combat works. A guy asked me what happens if we take one to the crotch. I told him that its a 'kill'. He asked me why it wouldn't count as something lesser, I told him, that aside from the anatomical death reasons, to imagine this scenario.....

The tourney field, say third round. Many blows have been exchanged. Suddenly Duke Hits-like-a-Tank thrusts, by accident, Squire Just-got-started in the crotch N.B.C. style. He hits the ground with alacrity mewling slightly. The marshals come over to him and tell him that it doesn't count as death and that he had to get up and fight more.

... His eye's went wide and told me that maybe counting them as death was a good idea after all.

I, for one, am very grateful that cup shots count as death. I even like to count them light on the principle that it encourages my opponent to continue hitting there light in the future. After all, the tender bit's don't grow back.

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[quote="LeeC"]
"So I've got a pollaxe and wound up cutoff from my unit."
Isn't this exactly the kind of stuff we are trying to avoid :lol:
Seriously, I have been exploring smaller round shields as they are more persona specific, and I have been hit no less than 4 times in the last three times I have suited up. I don't think it is purely flaws in my defence (although a couple inches of diameter less, plus a lefty with a good J-hook is a recipe for ruin), but I have had a weird spate of luck of late.
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Tor Magnusson wrote:I have to believe that every male fighter who has been doing this for any amount of time has been hit in the jewels at least once. Reading some of these stories about expolding cups and nuts lodged in your throat has convinced me that my next purchase will be a Nutty Buddy....


dude member when bad thomas got his nuts smashed and he had to go to hospital for x-rays and his nuts were like grapefruit size and he was wearing 2 cups for a while! hahaha - was that you that cupped him then? i dont remember. good times! hes got a nuttybuddy now!
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Nissan Maxima wrote:This is a picture of me at the very moment I was stabbing Sir Killian (In green) in the groin. Sorry man.


nissan are you "Harpooning"?
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my best friend has a habit of taking nut shots at least once a month at practice...worse one was about two weeks ago....all happened so fast that I couldn't see what actually happened but I did hear TWAC and saw his 5'6 270 lb ass lift off the ground and land on his back clutching his balls.....cracked the cup and he took a precautionary trip to the emergency room....

Myself, I haven't taken one yet but I have had the bruise that starts on left leg and goes all the way to the right....

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Cadfael_Mynnydd wrote:
Nissan Maxima wrote:This is a picture of me at the very moment I was stabbing Sir Killian (In green) in the groin. Sorry man.


nissan are you "Harpooning"?

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Hey there,

Slightly OT, but I need to ask why. Since when have the “Family Jewelsâ€
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One man's junk is another man's jewels?

You can't really pass them down though. Or....ewwww....
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Many moons ago I was fighting a guy and got legged. So he comes in to finish me off and I get an open shot at the inside of his leg, but as I took my shot at his leg, he stepped and I pounded him in the cup. I said, "ooh I'm sorry." He replied, "light...I didn't feel a thing" and pounded me on the head. Now I'm a little dumbfounded, but let it go. A little later he came up to me apologizing profusely. When I asked why, he told me that he'd just picked his cup out of his jock in 7 pieces.
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Adric13 wrote:
Tor Magnusson wrote:I have to believe that every male fighter who has been doing this for any amount of time has been hit in the jewels at least once. Reading some of these stories about expolding cups and nuts lodged in your throat has convinced me that my next purchase will be a Nutty Buddy....


dude member when bad thomas got his nuts smashed and he had to go to hospital for x-rays and his nuts were like grapefruit size and he was wearing 2 cups for a while! hahaha - was that you that cupped him then? i dont remember. good times! hes got a nuttybuddy now!


I do believe that was me who did that to Bad Thomas. That what happens when you fight those damn lefties... If they would just learn to fight with the right hand they wouldn't get hurt..... He wasn't wearing a cup that night, or just that stupid leather one he made......
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two times.

once fighting Sir Arik Altoon. the but straps on my cup had streched in the wash, and it was causing the bottom of my cup to flop up if i got too energetic. i figured, "hell with it, i am safe enough and want to fight." Sir Arik legged me, and as i fell, he threw the J-hook from hell. i was falling, my cup was lifting, and his sword was breaking the sound barrier in an upward arc. ever heard the expression "i threw up in my mouth a bit?" well i did. i was gagging so hard that i puked a bit. he was very appologetic. took me a good 15 minuets to get back in the fighting que.

the last time i had a disagreement with my reproductive organs was at the most recent highlands war. for some reason i changed something about how i stand in the shield wall. (i have no idea what or why) that change in stance created what my camp came to call the "nut funnel" in two days of fighting, i took about half a dozen shots to the groin, mostly spears. it was the first time in my history that i had a true ring bruise around my stuff. it was all so tender, i almost passed up war sex... almost

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Isabella E wrote:One man's junk is another man's jewels?

You can't really pass them down though. Or....ewwww....

I can hear it now...."you don't have half the stones your father had" "Sure I do right here in this jar :shock: "
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I was watching my dad at fighter practice and he was going mace and shield, and he threw his offside leg at a relatively new fighter, but the guy stepped back... there was a good solid THUD and he was out for about 5 minutes before he hobbled out of there.
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one word.

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I accedentally hit a fellow in the cup at an event last month, I still feel bad about it. It also seems I have bad luck with injurying people at that particular site, almost 3 years ago I KO'ed a poor guy there. He was fine but man, I felt like a jerk afterwards.
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Fighting a new fighter during a polearm tourney (he had s&s since he was new and had no gants). I go to jump his shit and he reflexively brings his arms and one knee up. Knee hits me right on the pubic bone. I thought I was gonna hurl.

Had a big painful knot on my girly bits for two weeks.
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Haldan wrote:The Time: Waaaaaaaaay too long ago in Meridies ('83 I think)

The Event: "The Quest for the Holy Quail"

The Activity: A Grand Melee

Now at this event there were only a few (think 5-10) fighters.

Thus it was decided that before the standard double elemination tourney there was to be held a Grand Melee (basically everyone fights everyone else with a single victor emerging - also know as 'all against all'). And since at this time the rules of combat were ummm... less stringent, the Marshal in charge allowed a Combat Archer to participate in the Grand Melee.

Lay on is called and Furious Activity ensues. At the end of the action there are two men standing. The Archer and a Fighter who will remain nameless. Said fighter is equiped with a Kite sheild and sword. The unamed fighter looks at the Archer and does what any of us would do in that situation. Charge!!!!!!

The archer, seeing death approach reacts in a perfectly normal manner, He Aims and Shoots.

Fighter falls to the ground. Fighter stays on ground. Fighter rolls a round a bit on the ground.

It seems the Archer was better than anyone realized. He fired a fatal shot at the fighter. This miraculous arrow hit the fighter in the groin area.

Later, it was discovered that the cup of the fighter was broken into four pieces by the arrow.


Yep that would have been me...tjat was back in the day when they allowed the bird blunts and the bow I believe was a tad higher than 30 lbs...
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yep....thanks there Haldan for that trip down memory lane I didn't need to go there. All is fine..4 kids later. I imagine if my wife ever wanted to dress up as "The Huntress" I would be so scared I would not be able to get it up with a crane..
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I've been cupped only twice (bangs on wood)

1st was in my very first tournament. It was kind of a goofy one where kids chose the weapons. So there I was...two daggers...vs..a guy with two glaives.

I Charged in ninja style with both knives and the other guy (with both glaives resting point down in the grass) actually kicks the glaive up into the air..right into my charging nuts.

Everything went silent and I swear I felt time slow down as I stared down, then looked up at the guy who was neutral faced, then grinned. Then I fell over.

Second time was just at a normal practice, I was experimenting with an oval shield and rushed in on a friend. He did a J shot or something and it curved right under my shield and smacked me in the jimmy. I felt the cup compress and let out a very un-chivalric stream of cusswords then stumbled off the field.

The cup survived, but got pushed so hard it bruised my balls.
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HauoctheWild wrote:Many moons ago I was fighting a guy and got legged. So he comes in to finish me off and I get an open shot at the inside of his leg, but as I took my shot at his leg, he stepped and I pounded him in the cup. I said, "ooh I'm sorry." He replied, "light...I didn't feel a thing" and pounded me on the head. Now I'm a little dumbfounded, but let it go. A little later he came up to me apologizing profusely. When I asked why, he told me that he'd just picked his cup out of his jock in 7 pieces.



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Watching the Bearpit Tourney at Market at Birka, I saw a guy who was fighting a sword and board vs a two weapons guy fighting mace and sword. The sword and board guy sweeps both weapons to the side and goes to pin with his shield, next maneuver was to go for the under the leg thrust to the exposed belly. Well, the two stick guy was quicker than the sword and board guy expected and did a sidestep with a rising block with his mace. :shock: BOOM right in the jimmy! Guy didn't even moan but dropped straight to the ground in fetal position.

Worst one on me was fighting a buddy that had gotten a couple shots in on my hip, well, he went for the fences on this hip shot, I hopped back and his tip caught the edge of my cup and just scrambling both eggs. I was on my knees gasping for breath, trying to rip off my helmet so I wouldn't throw up in it. Yeah, good times.
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Where I use to live the local chirurgeon told a story of an AnTir West War where a fighter came off the field after a cup shot that had split his cup apart trapping his junk between the two pieces. Needless to say it was a quite embarasing and extreemly painfull chirurgeon visit as they had to pray the split cup appart to rescue his junk from its clinched grip. About a year latter guess who moved into the area and told about this time at war when he got a cup shot the split his cup and trapped his junk!!!

Between that, a broken ankle and another serious injury he no longer fights in any sort of melee combat, as EVERY time he has he either recieved or caused a serious injury do to those wierd flukes that just happen.
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