Midwest Historical Fencers Project Seminar

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Sun Jul 29, 2001 2:06 am

Greetings,

The Midwest Historical Fencers Project and Gibson's Martial Arts is hosting a two day Western martial arts seminar on October 13th and 14th. The seminar is being held in Tulsa, OK at Gibson's Martial Arts.

Classes will be presented on the below topics.

Basic Rapier
Marozzo Counter Dagger
Pedagogy of George Silver
Cornish Wrestling
Hungarian Sabre
Bare Knuckle Boxing
Longsword
Pallas Armata Rapier
The Medical Reality of Historical Wounds

The prices are $10 for one day, and $15 for both days. Classes begin at 9:00 AM both mornings, and the afternoon will be open floor.

Gibson's Martial Arts is located at 5455 S. Mingo Rd. in Tulsa, OK. The Midwest Historical Fencers Project website is http://www.pcis.net/ardan/fencers.htm Due to computer problems, this site has not updated with this specific seminar information. We will be updating the site soon, but do not have an ETA.

Please contact me if you have any questions.

Jon Eppler
(918) 747-3750
joneppler@msn.com
http://www.pcis.net/ardan/fencers.htm

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Sun Jul 29, 2001 11:16 am

I received an email concerning this weekend also being the same weekend as WMA 2001 in New York. We're looking at trying to run something low cost for the people in this area who cannot make it to New York for economic reasons. I was hoping to hold the seminar on the weekend of the 20th and 21st, but I have military obligations that weekend. The weekend of the 13th and 14th was the next best weekend for everyone involved. Most of our target audience already knows about both seminars, and I was posting to see what response we get.

We are not trying to detract from the larger event in New York. As this area is very geographically isolated in the Western Martial Arts community, we are attempting to get something moving using local talent. Anyone who has the ability to attend WMA 2001 in New York would be a fool not to. The quality of instruction available at that event is incredible and should be taken advantage of by anyone able to attend.

Jon Eppler
(918) 747-3750
joneppler@msn.com
http://www.pcis.net/ardan/fencers.htm

Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Sun Jul 29, 2001 11:24 am

Name the time and I will be there......

I'm not quite sure why I didn't know about your project before (since I'm just down the road in Edmond). I'll see what I can do about scaring up a few people from this area (and DFW) as well. I'd hate to miss this.

Janos

Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 9:57 am

...not going to let this disappear. "Ya'll come".

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 12:53 pm

Ten bleedin dollars !?!?!?!

The thing in New YOrk is 100.
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Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 1:23 pm

Well then come on out Norman, I've got a spare bedroom or two =}

J

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 1:58 pm

And it would cost me how much to get there?

Sides,
I ain't visiting you till I can come helmet in hand (or come visiting the helmet already insitu)

...insidentally, you did not reply on the eyebrows, and while I'm at it -- wanted to double check with you on the occular too.

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Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 3:43 pm

Don't let lack of gear stop ya. There will be a small amount to loan out

Josh W · Post by **Josh W** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 6:27 pm

That's only a few hours south of here. Hell yes! I'll be there....

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 10:08 pm

Be glad to have you! if you have any questions feel free to contact me. If I am guessing right, you will be travelling US 169. If so, just exit 51st Street, go west to Mingo and turn left. we are half a mile down the road on the left.

Regards,

Jon

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 10:54 pm

Here is the basic recommended gear list for the seminar.

Equipment for Rapier Combat:
1. Three Weapon Mask (Minimum)
2. Leather or Steel Gorget
3. Gloves
4. Athletic Cup (Men)
5. Breast Protector (Women)
6. Three Weapon Jacket or Equivalent (Recommended)
7. Long Pants and Closed Toe Shoes (Strongly Recommended)

Approved Practice Rapiers and Daggers:
1. Del Tin Practice Rapiers
2. Scottie Heavy Ren Blades
3. Scottie Diamond Schlagers
4. Standard Schlager Blades
5. Flexi-Dagger and Cut Down Epees
(Steel Tips Rolled and Blunted, and Covered with Rabbit Blunt)

Equipment for Waster Fighting:
1. Three Weapon Mask (Minimum) or Steel Helmet
2. Leather or Steel Gorget
3. Gloves and Forearm Protection
(Hockey Gloves or Steel Gauntlets Strongly Recommended)
4. Athletic Cup (Men)
5. Breast Protector (Women)
6. Arming Coat (Recommended)
7. Long Pants and Closed Toe Shoes (Strongly Recommended)
8. Knee Pads
9. Elbow Pads (If not Using Arming Coat)
10. If wasters are not available, hard wood dowels of at least 1 inch in diameter may be substituted in appropriate lengths. Edges and tips should be rounded.

Equipment for Padded Weapons Fighting:
1. Three Weapon Mask (Minimum)
2. Leather or Steel Gorget
3. Gloves (Recommended)
4. Athletic Cup (Men)
5. Breast Protector (Women)
6. Padded Weapons will conform to Standards Set by the Historic Armed Combat Association www.thehaca.com

SCA armor and weapons in compliance with Kindom of Origin

Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 9:48 am

Jon,

Norman wasn't saying he doesnt have his equipment... its a helm for me. (long story but it doesn't have to do with the class).

Norman,

Sorry about not replying. I've been too busy in the evenings to respond from my home email. What about the occulars?

J

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 11:11 am

Janos,
I emailed you.

[This message has been edited by Norman (edited 08-01-2001).]

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 3:17 pm

I confuse easily

Russ Mitchell · Post by **Russ Mitchell** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 4:05 pm

Only compared to Janos. Compared to me, you're a model of lucidity...

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Sat Aug 04, 2001 8:41 pm

The full seminar flyer is up on the site!
www.pcis.net/ardan/fencers.htm

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Sun Aug 12, 2001 9:52 pm

Russ Mitchell, the instructor for the Hungarian Sabre class recommends a sabre waster, bokken, or curved stick for his class at the seminar. We will have a few on hand to loan out.

Jon

Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 11:56 am

This thread was in serious need of a...

[This message has been edited by Janos (edited 09-07-2001).]

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 6:59 pm

Thanks Janos. We will have wasters from Purpleheart Armory for sale at the seminar!

Regards, Jon
www.pcis.net/ardan/fencers.htm

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Sat Sep 29, 2001 10:01 am

Josh W · Post by **Josh W** » Sat Sep 29, 2001 11:23 pm

I would absolutely be thrilled to death to go to this thing, but I'm afraid I haven't any of the minimum equipment....

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Sun Sep 30, 2001 6:25 pm

The equipment list is more directed for bouting. We will have some gear available to be used but it will have to be shared. We will also have longsword and cut & thrust wasters for sale from purpleheart armory www.woodenswords.com . If you do decide to attend at least get some light work gloves, an athletic cup, the rest we can try to help with. If you have any questions feel free to contact me at joneppler@msn.com or at 918-747-3750.

Regards, Jon

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Thu Oct 04, 2001 12:17 am

here is the schedule. The Gibsonâ€™s Martial Arts

and

Midwest Historical Fencers Project

Seminar Schedule

Saturday

8am Doors open, and sign in

9am Basic Longsword: Jon Eppler

10am Counter Dagger: Brandon Bennett

11am Bare Knuckle Boxing throws: Brandon Bennett

12pm Hungarian Sabre: Russ Mitchell

1pm Pedagogy of George Silver: Scott Crawford

2Pm Open Floor/lunch

Sunday

8am Doors open, and sign in

9am The Medical Reality of Historical Wounds: Dr. Richard Swinney

10am Intro to Cornish Wrestling

11am Basic Rapier

12pm The Pallas Armata Rapier: Andy Borman

1 pm Pedagogy of George Silver: Scott Crawford

2Pm Open Floor/lunch

www.pcis.net/ardan/fencers.htm

www.gibsonsmartialarts.com

Joneppler@msn.com

Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Fri Oct 12, 2001 5:36 pm

See you there tommorow!

J

Jon Eppler · Post by **Jon Eppler** » Mon Oct 15, 2001 11:03 pm

I want to thank the instructors and participants from this weekend's seminar.

On Saturday we began with me teaching an introductory longsword class. Brandon Bennett, from Gibson's Martial Arts, taught counter dagger techniques and bare-knuckle boxing throws ca. Broughton rules era. Russ Mitchell was kind enough to offer a demonstration of Hungarian Sabre methods, and this class was very enlightening. Scott Crawford, of the Bramble's School of Defense, gave a multimedia and hands-on presentation on The Pedagogy of George Silver that has changed many of my perceptions about Silver. We opened the floor to bouting and more personal instruction, and later retired to the White Lion Pub for dinner and suds.

On Sunday, Dr. Richard Swinney from the Bramble School of Defense gave a power point lecture on The Medical Reality of Historical Wounds. Dr. Swinney is an Army trauma surgeon who has treated multiple knife and one sword injury, giving him an excellent understanding of penetration and cut wounds. Dr. Swinney was followed by a repeat of the longsword class and my Rapier Basics class. For a change of pace, Darian Whittaker the owner of Gibson's, taught an intro to Cornish Wrestling. The spectator got more entertainment than they bargained for watching our clumsy attempts at wrestling. Andy Borman, an excellently skilled SCA rapier fencer, gave a class on the Pallas Armata's rapier chapters. By popular demand Scott did a second presentation of his George Silver class. We again ended the day with open floor bouting.

The seminar, while a little lighter in attendance than anticipated, was an unqualified success. We are looking forward to getting together again for the Bob Charon Seminar in February.

I would also like to thank my lovely wife Sheri who helped with not only the organization, but with my longsword class and Russ' Sabre demonstration.

I hope to see you all again soon!

Regards, Jon