Celt's and the Crusades

Torc · Post by **Torc** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 7:02 pm

Anyone have a good source for research on Scotland and Ireland and the Crusades?

Fearghus Macildubh · Post by **Fearghus Macildubh** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:56 am

Well, for one thing, it wouldn't be Celts and the Crusades, it would be Scots and Irish going on Crusade. I do know that James of Douglas went on Crusade to Spain after Robert the Bruce died, taking the king's heart with him, so that the Bruce could go on Crusade as well. I dunno about the Irish.
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Engenulf · Post by **Engenulf** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:22 am

I'v often wonderd what role the Irish played in the crusades myself.
because my maternal grandfathers family came to the U.S. from CO.Clare Ireland, their last name is mullins from the gealic O'maolain meaning decendent of the bald/tonsured one.

our coat of arms fetures a scaracens head which I have learned means that the bearer killed or took prisoner an important islamic leader or somthing like that.
so I'm betting the Irish did play a role, though how large a role I know not. so I'm just as interested in the subject.

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Rev. George · Post by **Rev. George** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 9:43 am

Are you crazy? Celts on a CRUSADE? everyone knows the entire populus of scotland and ireland, as well as much of europe was hard core goddessfaeriewicca pagan.

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Torc · Post by **Torc** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:33 pm

Ireland and Scotland by that time were pretty much Christianized, from my readings. I am aware that they were part of the Crusades but was curious about who went.

I was thinking of a persona of someone who was against the Crusades and not Christian, as I myself would find it difficult to act as a Christian, even in persona..

Rev. George · Post by **Rev. George** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:37 pm

Ireland and Scotland by that time were pretty much Christianized, from my readings. I am aware that they were part of the Crusades but was curious about who went.

Your right, most of europe was christian by that point, I was being sarcastic and commenting on the plethora of SCA "Pagan genericelts"

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Albrekt af Viborg · Post by **Albrekt af Viborg** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:28 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Torc:
I was thinking of a persona of someone who was against the Crusades and not Christian, as I myself would find it difficult to act as a Christian, even in persona.. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um...Saracens come to mind.

Seriously, though, as far as Irishmen or Scots during the time of the Crusades, I think finding a non-Christian would have been nigh unto impossible.

Torc · Post by **Torc** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:23 pm

I had thought that as well, or those that were not would not be open about it.

Rev. I figured you were being sarcastic but one cannot bee too sure these days, lol.

Well, hmmmm, what to do, what to do.

I tried looking up James of Douglas online but did not find much on him. Any recommended sources?

Mike Odea · Post by **Mike Odea** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 11:38 pm

Irish on Crusades,try reading about some of the Popes bodygaurds during those times ,many were Irish ,especially the clans of the DalCas and the Inoquinns of Cnty.Clare,and those Clans of the North who were in direct servive to the Bishops of Antrium and Armagh through thier clan chieftains and nobles of the times