Bucklers with thrusting tips

Aethelwulf · Post by **Aethelwulf** » Sat Jul 06, 2002 6:38 am

Greetings all
In a flight of fancy I have been working on using bucklers with my great sword and have been having alot of fun.
Has anyone encountered a great weopon / polearmed fighter with buckler ??? And how would adding thrsuting tips to the buckler(s) change things ???

Aethelwulf

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Llywelyn · Post by **Llywelyn** » Sat Jul 06, 2002 3:03 pm

Greetings,

I don't think you could to that(as fun as it would be) because striking with a shield isn't permited. Others will be able to answer better, but in my understanding you can't do it.

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Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Sat Jul 06, 2002 6:38 pm

A more specific answer is "it isn't allowed in the SCA."

If you want to try it in another group, I can't speak for their rules. I don't think it'd work particularily well, myself.

Fearghus Macildubh · Post by **Fearghus Macildubh** » Sun Jul 07, 2002 1:19 am

I fought spear and greatsword with a buckler in my left hand for melees when I lived in the Outlands. Mainly for blocking arrows and as an extra layer of protection for when my hands got whacked. Many kingdoms will not allow you to grasp a weapon and a shield in the same hand, and of course you can't use a shield as a weapon without approval from the Earl Marshall, and no weapon can have the pokey directly in line with the wrist. So the thrusty on a buckler is right out.
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olaf haraldson · Post by **olaf haraldson** » Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:29 am

It has been allowed in the East in the past... not sure about now though. I fought with one for a while... I thought it was pretty silly, and not all that effective. And if you do use one... put a blade edge on the thing... if it's just a thrusting tip, you will be in for a surprise when someone grabs the haft of it and starts throwing you around by your shield.

Asbjorn Johansen · Post by **Asbjorn Johansen** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 1:35 pm

from the SCA's Marshalls handbook

D. A shield may be used to displace, deflect, or immobilize an opponentâ€™s shield or weapon, so long as such use does not endanger the safety of the combatants. Deliberately striking an opponentâ€™s head, limbs, or body with a shield is forbidden, unless that shield is designed for use
as a weapon, and is approved by the Kingdom Marshallate.

You can have an "attack" shield, but you need to get approval from the Kingdom EM.

Asbjorn

Rev. George · Post by **Rev. George** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 2:25 pm

I can see it now... a shield made of woven rattan. 1.25" rattan.

"ummm mr. marshall, so why is it not legal?"

-+G

Crystoll · Post by **Crystoll** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 4:28 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rev. George:
I can see it now... a shield made of woven rattan. 1.25" rattan.

"ummm mr. marshall, so why is it not legal?"

-+G<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Cause there isn't any mention of duct tape of course!

/grins

Crystoll

Constancius · Post by **Constancius** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 11:00 pm

Dare I mention it...........madu. Center grip like a buckler, but with thrusting tips on both ends. But, then again, It wouldn't work for most personas. They are fun to play with though.

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