Transitional hips?

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:48 pm

(showing my ignorance)

My idea of a transitional kit among other things involves full or splinted legs, a coat of plates.... and lots of other stuff.

what kind of hip protection goes with this?

(best armour bit I ever had was a padded heavy leather "hula skirt"...2 inch wide strips pointed at the bottom... protected the hips and upper legs marvelously)

Gundo · Post by **Gundo** » Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:59 pm

A long enough coat of plates to cover the hips, and/or a hauberk long enough for same, is my off the top of the head response.

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DanNV · Post by **DanNV** » Tue Jan 30, 2001 1:00 am

All I can find evidence for is mail under the armoing coat. There aren't faulds over the hips, although there are some images with V shaped ones going down over the groin.

For SCA use, adding a plastic or hardened leather plate to a pocket inside teh arming coat provides good protection against the clubs we use without ruening the look. Same goes for the back. Most 14th century armor has no back plate, just mail under the arming coat unless a CoP is being worn.

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Lynxicanus · Post by **Lynxicanus** » Tue Jan 30, 2001 1:03 am

I believe it goes aketon-hauburke-coat of plates. The plates in the examples that I have seen do not themselves cover the hips, but the leater of the coat does. This would, given the mail and padding, be quite sufficient I would think, if not, the plates on the side (or even enlarged frontal plates) could be made to cover the hips.

Josh W · Post by **Josh W** » Tue Jan 30, 2001 1:36 am

I dunno....the pic of Sir John de Creke in the 14th century chapter of AAOTMK seems to show the COP covering the hips. Just my two cents...

Mad Matt · Post by **Mad Matt** » Tue Jan 30, 2001 9:25 am

Well My solution was the long COP with plates over the hips. See the german transitional section of my site for pics.

Now on another note the splinted legs which were generally just splinted greaves are mainly a german fashion. Other areas had cuir-boulli popular or nothing or just jumped straight from chausses to greaves.

But the splinted legs were mostly german.

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