A question about droopy knee cops

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:18 pm

I saw this picture in a thread in Medieval Combat and Weapons.

Notice how his knee cop does not cover his knee. I continuously have this problem with my own knee cops mounted to my gamboised cuisses.

I have come to the conclusion to try simply pointing the top center of the cop to the cuisse. But I do not know of any evidence to support this being done in period.

What gives?

Steve

[img]http://www.whitemountainarmoury.com/images/random/fistothedude.jpg[/img]

Armourkris · Post by **Armourkris** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:36 pm

not to derail the thread, but is that a um... novelty fist?

fghthty545y · Post by **fghthty545y** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:51 pm

Armourkris wrote:not to derail the thread, but is that a um... novelty fist?

Looks like you derailed it, alright.

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:04 am

I think that very point was raised, in August, and attested to in that thread. Or maybe Best SCA Pics or somesuch.

Yep -- started on the first page of this thread.

chris19d · Post by **chris19d** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:06 am

yea its the best pics of the sca thread

losthelm · Post by **losthelm** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:19 am

I would suspect pointing to the cops to the hose and then pointing the hose to the dublet may do the trick.

It's hard to tell whats going on with your support garments.

DeCalmont · Post by **DeCalmont** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:33 am

Steve,

That was my solution as well, to point the top center of the cop to the cuisse. I haven't seen any evidence for it either unfortunately, but to be honest I've not been too concerned about it as I really think it has more to do with our safety conventions than period armour issues.

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/decalmont/DSCF0259.jpg[/img]

white mountain armoury · Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:58 am

My knee is drooping because I dressed for a photo shoot for a friend and did not have my legs pointed, they are just pulled on.
If your cuisses fit correctly and your knees are pointed in the proper place they will not droop.

Yes thats a "novelty" fist, it is part of a long running inside joke

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:30 am

I tried pointing my cops near the sides of the cop but it is not optimal. I, too, think pointing center-top is the way to go. I wish there was a way to document how they did it.

Steve

white mountain armoury · Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:04 am

Mine are hung at the balance point of the cop with a rivet on either side.
I have been fighting in gamboised cuisses for about 8 years, I do not have any issues with my knees staying where I want them.

Kel Rekuta · Post by **Kel Rekuta** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:16 am

The effigy of Colonnio Beccadelli demonstrates an excellent solution.

Ingvarr · Post by **Ingvarr** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:17 am

Armourkris wrote:not to derail the thread, but is that a um... novelty fist?

What, you never got your Award of Arms?