SCA heavy archer

Artos-Banadaspus · Post by **Artos-Banadaspus** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:28 am

can some one help me out? I'm in the SCA and I need to know what kind of armour i need to be a heavy archer...so if anyone knows anything it would help me out a lot. Thanks

MJBlazek · Post by **MJBlazek** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:31 am

The same you need for a heavy-fighter!

The minimums are:

Helmet
Gorget
Some form of Kidney protection
Elbows
Knees
Gauntlets

losthelm · Post by **losthelm** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:37 am

For Combat archery the gauntlets vary a bit, most are modified so they don't get in the way fo the bow string.

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:37 am

Archers need to be armored the same as everyone else. (although most regular fighters go above the minimums and archers stay closer to minimums)

http://www.sca.org/officers/marshal/doc ... ndbook.pdf

Section VI on page 10 starts the armor requirements. Page 12, VI/F/5 lists the only exception which is you can wear a halfgauntlet on your string hand but you can not engage in melee combat without additional protection.

Now are you interested in sport-efficient armor or historically accurate archer armor or cheap to get started armor?

Sean

Artos-Banadaspus · Post by **Artos-Banadaspus** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:02 pm

I'm aiming to be historically accurate as possible, but I'm only 15 so I'm going to make it cheep armor. I was thinking of lamallar with pickle barrel armor for the parts that will grow the most (legs and arms).

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:10 pm

Artos-Banadaspus wrote:I'm aiming to be historically accurate as possible, but I'm only 15 so I'm going to make it cheep armor. I was thinking of lamallar with pickle barrel armor for the parts that will grow the most (legs and arms).
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Lamellar grows with you and works quite nicely for most of your arm and leg needs.
Pickle barrels are for pickles.
If you are going for a Steppes heavy archer portrayal, you can wear a Mongolian style lamellar coat with full lamellar "sleeves" and lamellar "skirting" to the floor (or as low as you need without tripping over).
You can even use a lamellar aventail for the helmet.

Artos-Banadaspus · Post by **Artos-Banadaspus** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:19 pm

thats a vary good idea, thank you

also what would a half gauntlet look like, is it a demi-gauntlet?
also would these work for arm protection?
http://www.armourarchive.org/patterns/bazubands_wma/

RenJunkie · Post by **RenJunkie** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:44 pm

A demi gaunt is basically a gauntlet with the finger protection missing. Usually these are used with a baskethilt to cover the fingers.

http://www.armourarchive.org/patterns/demigaunt/

Start saving up now, and by the time you've graduated you might be able to afford these:

http://armstreet.com/store/armor/mediev ... -body-suit

And these to finish it off:

http://armstreet.com/store/armor/sca-ar ... arm-armour

And don't let the CA haters get you down

Welcome!
Christopher

Daithi' ua Conri' · Post by **Daithi' ua Conri'** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:45 pm

The questions first: Yes a half gauntlet is a Demigauntlet. And having just done ca in my regular heavy kit which uses bazubands they will work just fine.

Good for you on trying to be as historicly acurate as you can in this portrayal at such a young age. Good luck and have fun.

Artos-Banadaspus · Post by **Artos-Banadaspus** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:44 pm

RenJunkie wrote:A demi gaunt is basically a gauntlet with the finger protection missing. Usually these are used with a baskethilt to cover the fingers.

http://www.armourarchive.org/patterns/demigaunt/

Start saving up now, and by the time you've graduated you might be able to afford these:

http://armstreet.com/store/armor/mediev ... -body-suit

And these to finish it off:

http://armstreet.com/store/armor/sca-ar ... arm-armour

And don't let the CA haters get you down

Welcome!
Christopher

Thank-you vary much my friends, may the gods be kind to you

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:22 pm

Artos-Banadaspus wrote:thats a vary good idea, thank you
also what would a half gauntlet look like, is it a demi-gauntlet?
also would these work for arm protection?
http://www.armourarchive.org/patterns/bazubands_wma/

If your purpose is room to grow, there is no need for Bazubands
As mentioned, you can just have the lamellar continue all the way down your arm

Like the fellow in the mask here:
http://pics.livejournal.com/alternathis ... r/s640x480
Or the fellow in the red in this image
http://swordmaster.org/uploads/posts/20 ... idanec.jpg
Except that I can't find the images where the sleeves are all the way to the fingertips -- which is what I had in mind.
Theoreticaly, if done right, that can even cover the area normally covered by the half-gauntlet.

But yes -- Bazubands do work for SCA

bigjon · Post by **bigjon** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:28 pm

MJBlazek wrote:The same you need for a heavy-fighter!

The minimums are:

Helmet
Gorget
Some form of Kidney protection
Elbows
Knees
Gauntlets

Some like to wear an athletic cup in addition... :wink:

Odd · Post by **Odd** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:29 pm

bigjon wrote:
MJBlazek wrote:The same you need for a heavy-fighter!

The minimums are:

Helmet
Gorget
Some form of Kidney protection
Elbows
Knees
Gauntlets

Some like to wear an athletic cup in addition...

I think I'm gonna make one in Lamellar.. Just to match, you know...