"The Sword in Two Hands by Brian Price" review wan

[Lessingham]

Thanks Galleron, you simply beat me to things here.

This is what I posted on Swordforum....

'Well, as of last week John Michael Greer tells me he has received a check and a letter returning all publishing rites to him.

Now, he has been paid royalties on 800 copies of the book. We have no way of verifying if that is really what has sold, but he seems satisfied for an end to things at this time. From my online tracking of the product it seems to me that CB must have sold out of whatever number of books they managed to print. Given the availability of them in even local large bookstores for quite awhile, it seems to me 800 may be a low figure. But, John Michael is satisfied for now.

Also - I note as of today that it is still possible to purchase this title from revival.us Which is Ann Prices business which Brian has interest in. Please refrain from doing so."

Christian was kind enough to reply
"
Knowing CB's purchasing pattern (usually no fewer than 2000 copies), I would find a total run of 800 to be unlikely."

Jeff Richardson
http://duellatoria.com/

[Vitus von Atzinger]

Brian was seduced by this bizarre cult that mixes Objectivism and Libertarianism. In other words, he is an Alan Greenspan-worshipping ARA, or Ayn Rand Asshole.

My wife sums up their philosophy thus; "Fu*k you and hooray for me."

All the signs point to this.

[Lessingham]

Revival/Chivalry bookshelf last posting on their facebook page is from early March. http://www.facebook.com/brian.r.price#!/Revival.us
Which states return fro Estrella War and preparations for Gulf Wars.

Brian hasn't posted on his own facebook page since early February.

[Vitus von Atzinger]

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/books/2 ... rentPage=1

[Lady Charlotte]

Hello, Jeff Richardson,

I don't know, of course, what Chivalry Bookshelf's standard practice has been for minimum print runs, but I know of no printers that will print runs of fewer than 1,000 copies offset, because the cost per copy would be prohibitively expensive. Moreover, the first print run of Mr. Greer's book had very clearly been sold out by Chivalry Bookshelf by the end of 2008 -- I've uploaded the relevant snippet, below, of the Wayback Machine's screenshot of December 08, 2008, which people can view in its entirety at the link embedded in this sentence. It clearly states "Temp out of stock -- avail. Jan. 07".

As for Mr. Price's recent claims here and apparently elsewhere that Revival Enterprises/Chivalry Bookshelf is "Ann Prices business," which he has a mere "interest in," color me skeptical that that is anything more than a convenient ploy, given what Mr. Price himself proudly proclaims as his "current occupation" on his LinkedIn profile, which was updated as recently as earlier this month (while this thread was already well underway).

I've again uploaded the relevant screenshot snippet, below, but people can view his profile in its entirety at the link I've provided, above (and I've requested that the Wayback Machine archive the page, which will be available at its site in about 6 months, in case Mr. Price edits it in the meantime).

All independent, objective evidence suggests that Mr. Greer has not been given the real story, even now.

Just my own opinion, of course, but at this point I personally wouldn't believe a single word either of the Prices uttered or wrote, even "and" or "the"!!!

Lady Charlotte, who's once again fallen behind on her off-list emails & private messages, but is ignoring no one...

[Greg Mele]

As "Academy of the Sword" was the last project I worked on at CB - and no, I did not get any compensation, and no the final edited draft that John Michael and I gave Brian was *not* the one that he laid out - at the time the plan was to order 1500 - 2000 copies. So, certainly more than 800 were ordered, but I have no idea what sold.

[jarlragnar]

Brian was seduced by this bizarre cult that mixes Objectivism and Libertarianism. In other words, he is an Alan Greenspan-worshipping ARA, or Ayn Rand Asshole.

My wife sums up their philosophy thus; "Fu*k you and hooray for me."

All the signs point to this.

That's a little far fetched so assert that. Screwing people over in droves is no good for business.

[Astaroth]

I said it before if Price said he was an objectivist and he cheats his customers and those who provide work that he lives off of he doesn't understand objectivism.

[Michail]

From Lady Charolette's post

Hello, Jeff Richardson,

I don't know, of course, what Chivalry Bookshelf's standard practice has been for minimum print runs, but I know of no printers that will print runs of fewer than 1,000 copies offset, because the cost per copy would be prohibitively expensive.

The company I work for does short run book publishing. Either perfect bound, saddle stitch or hardcover, of runs from 25 to 1000. Just wanted to put it out there that there are companies doing short run books. Most of our business is unedited proofs for larger companies, or books for authors looking to self publish.

[Lady Charlotte]

Hello, Michail,

The company I work for does short run book publishing. Either perfect bound, saddle stitch or hardcover, of runs from 25 to 1000. Just wanted to put it out there that there are companies doing short run books. Most of our business is unedited proofs for larger companies, or books for authors looking to self publish.

Short run off-set printing for traditional publishers of traditionally edited, designed and distributed (however ineptly) third party image-rich books -- like Chivalry Bookshelf?

Perhaps it wasn't clear from my last post alone, but that's what I'd been referring to in the context of the overall discussion.

I'm very well aware of short run printing, especially for the two niches you mentioned -- "unedited proofs," i.e., "reader copies" printed and distributed to third parties to assess, pre-publication, the marketability of a book project, but which copies aren't sold or intended to produce any profit; and self-published books, which are still typically done by vanity presses whose objective is to produce profit, if any, soley for the author, not for a traditional publisher, and which rarely sell more than 200 copies. Today virtually all of that is done [d]digitally[/d], in my experience, not offset, which is how Chivalry Bookshelf had printed its books, and that I'd consequently noted explicitly, above, in my criteria.

The short run niches you've pointed to are completely inapplicable to the market I was talking about and which Chivalry Bookshelf sought to occupy as a traditional for-profit publisher (not printer).

You will also notice that Mr. Greer's book was published on November 1, 2006, only weeks before Mr. Tobler's In the Service of the Duke, which -- as has been discussed in some detail, above -- was restricted by the Austrian museum to only 900 numbered copies, yet [url=http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20070212152040/http://www.chivalrybookshelf.com/]on November 27, 2006 (see, What's New at the Chivalry Bookshelf), CB had announced that it was awaiting the delivery of [u]1,000[u] copies -- 100 of which would be totally unsellable from Day One!

Why do folks suppose that Brian Price ordered 100 copies he knew he could never sell?

Because he had to?

Lady Charlotte

[Christian H. Tobler]

A few notes on the publishing of "In Service of the Duke":

1. I'm party to the details - in fact, I negotiated them, by and large. The BSB in Munich (not Austria...more on that below) is the owner of the Cgm 1507 Paulus Kal manuscript reproduced in the book.

2. I also negotiated terms for use of the images from other manuscripts which came from the KHM in Vienna.

[sidebar: the folks I dealt with in Munich and Vienna were all lovely to deal with - very encouraging about the project]

3. The original discussion with the BSB involved permissions for 1000 copies, plus 20 Roman numeraled copies to be provided to the BSB. Brian had concerns about cost per book at that number, so I inquired further if we could up the number of copies to 2000, with a commensurate increase in copies for the BSB. I was already shocked that all they wanted to begin with was 20 copies (no money, nothing else), but was still more so when they said 2000 would be fine, but that they would still be ok with just 20 copies for the library.

4. For reasons that remain unclear to me, Brian elected to do a run of 900 (I've no idea where this number comes from), rather than either the 1000 or 2000.

5. Given all the above, the overall run should be 900 copies + 20 BSB copies.

None of the above particularly changes, in my opinion, the substance of the overall discussion, but, as they say, the devil is in the details.

Cheers,

Christian

[Lady Charlotte]

Hello, Christian,

Thank you for the correction and clarification. I agree with you that this data doesn't however, change the substance of the overall discussion: if Mr. Price could have had his printer do a short run -- such as only the 900 copies he ultimately decided to sell, plus the 20 copies for the BSB -- then he wouldn't have ordered the 1,000 copies, but for the fact that off-set printers typically price runs in round lots of 1,000, 1,500, 2,000, etc., with 1,000 being the minimum.

I'm very impressed with the generosity of the BSB's terms, too. Did it ever receive its 20 copies, to your knowledge?

Lady Charlotte

[Lady Charlotte]

Hello, All,

After my post this past Saturday morning, here, asking, among other things, what had happened to the deposits made by people in anticipation of the publication of Bob Charron's book (among others), Talbot was kind enough to forward the post to Kristi Charron (thank you, Talbot!), who then followed up with me privately, inasmuch as she doesn't have a membership here. I asked her permission to share with the rest of you the first paragraph of her email, which she graciously granted:

Hi Charlotte
Doug shared your latest post on AA; where you looked at the Wayback to see about the preorder; I should clarify that Brian took preorders through Chivalry, and perhaps not through Amazon, although as you could see, Bob's 'books' were both listed as forthcoming when no contract to deliver final product was even finalized.
People paid Brian (or Chivalry) directly. We know this because people told us they had, and kept asking Bob when the book was due out. I know someone told Bob they received Brian's Sword in Two Hands book as "payment instead of Bob's book".

After I read that, I contacted the FTC because it seemed to me that doing that might constitute a violation of the FTC's "bait and switch" regulations, and that collecting deposits as "preorders" for such books, like the Chandos Herald, which was listed for "pre-order" for years, might violate the FTC's Mail or Telephone Merchandise Rule, which the staff member ("Nick") who handled my inquiry agreed might well be the case.

Nick suggested that anyone this happened to, and anyone who felt they were wronged by the Prices file an online complaint with the FTC, telling me that it typically takes 10-15 minutes to complete. The introduction to the procees, Before You Submit a Complaint is here:

The Federal Trade Commission, the nation's consumer protection agency, collects complaints about companies, business practices, and identity theft.

Why: Your complaints can help us detect patterns of wrong-doing, and lead to investigations and prosecutions. The FTC enters all complaints it receives into Consumer Sentinel, a secure online database that is used by thousands of civil and criminal law enforcement authorities worldwide. The FTC does not resolve individual consumer complaints.

Your Privacy: How much personal information you provide is up to you. To learn how we safeguard your personal information, please read our Privacy Policy. If you don't provide your name and certain other information, it may be impossible for us to refer, respond to, or investigate your complaint.

and the link to the online form, is here: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/F ... px?Lang=en

Alternatively, Phone: Call our toll-free helpline: 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357); TTY: 1-866-653-4261. I was connected to Nick after calling this number.

Since I have not been a customer of Mr. Price's, there was no basis for me to file a complaint, but I did discuss some of what's been revealed on this thread with him, and asked whether the FTC would still be interested in receiving complaints from people whose losses occurred so long ago that the statute of limitations may have passed and/or they may no longer have the documentaion to prove what occurred.

He responded, "absolutely," because such information helps them detect a pattern of deceptive business practices, and even if they can't help that particular individual, it helps them protect the next person.

If you were harmed by Brian Price but cannot afford to hire an attorney, you can file a complaint at the link, above. The FTC only handles those complaints that come under its specific jurisdiction, but it places them all in a central database for law enforcement around the country and forwards relevant notices to local law enforcement, such as the district attorney in the county where the deceptive business is headquartered. Nick directed me to a list of local law enforcement agencies that participate in this "Sentinel Notification" program. Luckily, the Denton County, TX, D.A. participates, so if everyone who's posted here files a complaint, the Denton County D.A. would begin to receive a stream of notifications from the FTC and would be able to look in the "Consumer Sentinel" database to see whether other complaints have ever been filed against Brian Price/Revival Enterprises/Chivalry Bookshelf in any other jurisdictions.

One's personal information is otherwise kept completely confidential, so no one need ever know that you filed the complaint unless local law enforcement believes it can take action on your behalf and you agree to that.

Nick told me that the more complaints that are filed, the more likely it is that the local D.A. or Attorney General would be to allocate resources toward investigating the business complained about. This could be particularly helpful for people who don't live in TX, who can't afford to travel across the country to bring a small claims case, especially those who live abroad. And it's free!

If you know of anyone who was harmed, please pass this information along to them.

Talbot, while I was chatting with a family member tonight who's recently retired from the diplomatic corps, I mentioned what I've learned here about what occurred with Westland, and -- after expressing indignation and disgust -- he made a number of suggestions to me that you might want to follow up on if you're working with Westland to achieve redress. Please PM me if that's the case!

Lady Charlotte

[Signo]

If you were harmed by Brian Price but cannot afford to hire an attorney.... you can call the AA-TEAM...
Lady Charlotte

can't resist!

[jswanger]

I just returned from the post office where I picked up the letter I sent to Brian last month requesting dissolution of our contract, since it was "returned to sender, unclaimed".

I've heard that "de Nile" is a river in Egypt.


Jherek

[Lessingham]

I just wanted to clear something up in regards to "Lady Charlotte" posting.
The screen shot from Chivalry Bookshelf that she provided is irrelevant. The book was released in 2006. The first 30 copies were drop shipped directly to John Michael Greer the end of the summer of 2006 directly from the printer (with some pressure for him to meet his deadline which had already been delayed). Presentation at Barnes and Noble was standing room only and we sold out every copy. At issue was that there was a book release scheduled with Barnes and Noble in Oregon, a demo, a seminar, and a lecture at the local university. Those copies came directly without even Brian seeing them because there was some delay at the printer. General release for the rest of the print run was to come later.

The "Temp. Out of Stock until Jan 07" notice was on the website at the beginning because those first 30 books was all that had hit the continent. It was the last website update I ever saw on the website.

So.... in all fairness that out of stock notice has no bearing on anything with regards to the discussion. It's just an issue of the website never having been updated since late 2006.

I do appreciate everyones feedback though.

[Jasper]

...So.... in all fairness that out of stock notice has no bearing on anything with regards to the discussion. It's just an issue of the website never having been updated since late 2006.

I...

Hmm feedback.
If a company is so poorly ran it can't, won't, etc, update its website in timely fashion; this is another reason to view the business with suspicion.

[ushumgal]

[...snip...]

Prior to this Brian offered to publish my book on 14th century armour. We signed a contract and I thought things were progressing. Picture rights were flowing in (according to Brian) and everything was going well (again according to Brian) the only thing was he would never show me any of the hundreds of pictures he claimed had come in. When I reached out to museums that he claimed to have pictures from they had never hear of my book or of Brian. He was lying to me. It took three years and legal threats to regain the publishing rights of my book which had languished. Based on the threads earlier I think I lucked out. Even if he had published it I would not have seen a dime. This book will finally be published this year with Freelance Academy Press.
[...snip...]

Hi folks,

[….snip….]

So, no, there's no way for me to get paid a nickel on my older titles now, because only Brian can make good on that. But there are more fresh goodies available, and more on the way. And, as a principle of Freelance Academy Press, I get to work toward ensuring that not only do I get paid, but that no one else's hard work goes unrewarded.

Yours most truly,

Christian

PS. We're at work right now on a second volume of the video series, this one on "Sword, Buckler, and Messer". As I said above: there are lots of goodies in the pipeline right now.

I have a question for Christian & Doug and (and any other authors) about publishing rights, since, hopefully, I will be dealing with the same issues in the near future. In fact, I’ve already had a rather unpleasant experience with an article I wrote for a magazine here in Spain…

If you are working with a publisher, and the publisher does not honor your contract, why can the author simply not withdraw his book and offer it to a different publisher? Even if the publishing rights have been legally signed over, I would imagine that is contingent upon the contract being honored.

I know publishing rights for these sorts of books are often complicated by needing to acquire rights for images from museums and other institutions. In fact, I imagine that is why Nicolle did line drawings for his book on Crusades arms and armor – there should be no need to obtain rights for a drawing you do yourself, even if you trace it from a photo.

Also, assuming that you have lost publication rights to your book and are not receiving your due royalties, could you not simply re-work the book a bit (perhaps make some revisions – as we all know, a book is never really finished…) and publish it under a new title with a new publisher? Particularly in a rather small community such as ours where you could rather easily reach a large percentage of your prospective readers and request they purchase the new title instead of the old title, I would think this would enable you to work around any problematic publishers. Of course, the image rights issue again rears its ugly head, which I guess would be the primary obstacle to doing this.

[Talbot]

Prior to this Brian offered to publish my book on 14th century armour. We signed a contract and I thought things were progressing. Picture rights were flowing in (according to Brian) and everything was going well (again according to Brian) the only thing was he would never show me any of the hundreds of pictures he claimed had come in. When I reached out to museums that he claimed to have pictures from they had never hear of my book or of Brian. He was lying to me. It took three years and legal threats to regain the publishing rights of my book which had languished. Based on the threads earlier I think I lucked out. Even if he had published it I would not have seen a dime. This book will finally be published this year with Freelance Academy Press.

I have a question for Christian & Doug and (and any other authors) about publishing rights, since, hopefully, I will be dealing with the same issues in the near future. In fact, I’ve already had a rather unpleasant experience with an article I wrote for a magazine here in Spain…

If you are working with a publisher, and the publisher does not honor your contract, why can the author simply not withdraw his book and offer it to a different publisher? Even if the publishing rights have been legally signed over, I would imagine that is contingent upon the contract being honored.

I know publishing rights for these sorts of books are often complicated by needing to acquire rights for images from museums and other institutions. In fact, I imagine that is why Nicolle did line drawings for his book on Crusades arms and armor – there should be no need to obtain rights for a drawing you do yourself, even if you trace it from a photo.

I can only speak for my case. I wanted to be sure that Brian did not publish my book in first draft form without my permission. I wanted his acknowedgement that he no longer had rights to my book. I got that.

BTW. When you see my book you will surely notice that I followed Nicolle's example. Every piece has clear line art. Many pieces also have photgraphs where I could secure the rights.

[Galleron]

[...snip...]

Prior to this Brian offered to publish my book on 14th century armour. We signed a contract and I thought things were progressing. Picture rights were flowing in (according to Brian) and everything was going well (again according to Brian) the only thing was he would never show me any of the hundreds of pictures he claimed had come in. When I reached out to museums that he claimed to have pictures from they had never hear of my book or of Brian. He was lying to me. It took three years and legal threats to regain the publishing rights of my book which had languished. Based on the threads earlier I think I lucked out. Even if he had published it I would not have seen a dime. This book will finally be published this year with Freelance Academy Press.
[...snip...]

Hi folks,

[….snip….]

So, no, there's no way for me to get paid a nickel on my older titles now, because only Brian can make good on that. But there are more fresh goodies available, and more on the way. And, as a principle of Freelance Academy Press, I get to work toward ensuring that not only do I get paid, but that no one else's hard work goes unrewarded.

Yours most truly,

Christian

PS. We're at work right now on a second volume of the video series, this one on "Sword, Buckler, and Messer". As I said above: there are lots of goodies in the pipeline right now.

I have a question for Christian & Doug and (and any other authors) about publishing rights, since, hopefully, I will be dealing with the same issues in the near future. In fact, I’ve already had a rather unpleasant experience with an article I wrote for a magazine here in Spain…

If you are working with a publisher, and the publisher does not honor your contract, why can the author simply not withdraw his book and offer it to a different publisher? Even if the publishing rights have been legally signed over, I would imagine that is contingent upon the contract being honored.

I know publishing rights for these sorts of books are often complicated by needing to acquire rights for images from museums and other institutions. In fact, I imagine that is why Nicolle did line drawings for his book on Crusades arms and armor – there should be no need to obtain rights for a drawing you do yourself, even if you trace it from a photo.

That might be the reason, but a good line drawing can also be cleaner and easier to read than a continuous tone photograph. The line drawings in Blair's European Armour are a good example.

[ushumgal]

I can only speak for my case. I wanted to be sure that Brian did not publish my book in first draft form without my permission. I wanted his acknowedgement that he no longer had rights to my book. I got that.

BTW. When you see my book you will surely notice that I followed Nicolle's example. Every piece has clear line art. Many pieces also have photgraphs where I could secure the rights.

If you are referring to your forthcoming book on bascinets, I just want to say that I am *desperately eager* to see it published! I'll be picking up one of the first copies even if I have to sell one of my kidneys to get it!

And I quite agree, Galleron - line drawings are often much clearer. I just figured they'd also be a handy way to avoid having to deal with photo rights. Though, I suppose, with armor, an author would want both - line drawings to make construction details clear, as well as photos to show the actual workmanship.

[Derian le Breton]

And as it turns out you can get booted for ethical violations pretty easily it seems. Other groups take their problem children and toss 'em. Other groups don't wait for an actual legal trial. Other groups will boot you essentially for "conduct unbecoming" - not necessarily even illegal activity, just stuff against their charter and the theme of the group. And that's it - there's the door.

What is published in bylaws often varies wildly from what is actually enforced.

-Derian.

[Talbot]

Thanks to your purchases of Guilt Free Books the authors have now received another $300.00 and the Wounded Warrior's Project has received another $300.00. This puts over $1000.00 in the pockets of authors who have been denied royalties and wounded war veterans.

Keep buying the books.

[BdeB]

A friend of mine showed up at practice last night and we started working on Greatsword stuff. He pulled out the gauntlets he got at pennsic and has barely fought in. Why? The spring steel was totally destroyed, they had holes in the damn thing.

Oh Boy.

I said, "Oh no, you got them from Chivalry Bookshelf, now I remember! You've seen the thread on the AA right?" "What thread he said?"

Oh Boy.

[Chris Cottrell]

I have a question for Christian & Doug and (and any other authors) about publishing rights, since, hopefully, I will be dealing with the same issues in the near future. In fact, I’ve already had a rather unpleasant experience with an article I wrote for a magazine here in Spain…

If you are working with a publisher, and the publisher does not honor your contract, why can the author simply not withdraw his book and offer it to a different publisher? Even if the publishing rights have been legally signed over, I would imagine that is contingent upon the contract being honored.

I know publishing rights for these sorts of books are often complicated by needing to acquire rights for images from museums and other institutions. In fact, I imagine that is why Nicolle did line drawings for his book on Crusades arms and armor – there should be no need to obtain rights for a drawing you do yourself, even if you trace it from a photo.

Also, assuming that you have lost publication rights to your book and are not receiving your due royalties, could you not simply re-work the book a bit (perhaps make some revisions – as we all know, a book is never really finished…) and publish it under a new title with a new publisher? Particularly in a rather small community such as ours where you could rather easily reach a large percentage of your prospective readers and request they purchase the new title instead of the old title, I would think this would enable you to work around any problematic publishers. Of course, the image rights issue again rears its ugly head, which I guess would be the primary obstacle to doing this.

I've been working in the publishing industry for most of my adult life, I think I can help.

Spain's copyright laws will not be the same as the US even though everyone uses roughly the same basic model, so you'll need to do some extra research there, but generally a publisher is taking specific rights to the material in question (European, first North American, electronic, etc.). Those rights, once given, are out of the author's hands unless there is a clause in which rights revert. If the author were to change a few things and try to republish the slightly altered material, the publisher (who now holds rights) can sue for copyright infringement.

If the publisher is in breach of contract, then the author needs to sue for a return of rights. Keep in mind: where there is some kind of advance involved, the publisher usually reserves the right to not publish the work, make alterations, select art, etc. A manuscript that the author really wants to see in publication under different terms might have to be purchased back from the publisher when an advance is involved.

All of this is dependent on specific contract terms, of course.

[ushumgal]

Thanks Chris, that helps clear my questions up a good bit!

I don't really plan to do any further publishing in Spain - it was just one magazine article - so I will probably mostly be dealing with American/British publishers in the future. So I guess avoiding having any advance will help, and being very careful about the terms of the contract.

[Chris Cottrell]

Ushumgal,

Don't avoid advances, they are industry standard--especially for nonfiction books that are pitched to a publisher but potentially incomplete, due to research needs. The idea is that you enter a contract and get an advance that is supposed to help you make time to finish the project. In fact, I would be more suspicious of a paying publisher that doesn't offer an advance. Fiction is different, you have to have a heavy-hitter or a good agent vouching for you to get a decent advance on an early book. The reason fiction might be different if an established author or agent isn't going to bat for you? Because I can blindly chuck a rock out my window and probably hit someone who is working on a novel or memoir.

It can be a little different with magazine articles. Many magazines only pay after they've published your article.

Definitely read the contract. Never pass up a chance to get paid, especially when it's up front.

[Lessingham]

I just wanted to take a moment to point out to Christian and Greg that Chivalry Bookshelf website is still functional and sends you to Revival.us when you place and order. Where, you can still order all the books apparently.

I was doing a little looking after being surprised to find Thibault and other Chivalry Bookshelf titles listed in the Lulu press store on their website - where you can also order the book.

Jeff Richardson
Academia Duellatoria

[Ian L]

I just wanted to take a moment to point out to Christian and Greg that Chivalry Bookshelf website is still functional and sends you to Revival.us when you place and order. Where, you can still order all the books apparently

I'm fairly certain that chivalrybookshelf.com has not been updated in some years. revival.us, which it re-directs to, while still offering books, does not show the specific titles in question as far as I can tell. For example, if you go to chivalrybookshelf.com and try to order In Service of the Duke, it sends you to the main page of revival.us. If you then go to their books section, books like In Service of the Duke and Fighting With the German Longsword etc, are NOT present.

Although the Top Sellers section does show some of the in question titles, when you try to click on them it also re-directs to e base revival.us page.

[Christian H. Tobler]

Hi folks,

Here's my read of "what's going on":

1. The Chivalry Bookshelf site hasn't been update in a long time, witnessed by the fact that Brian's own book "Sword in Two Hands" is still listed on its home page as "coming soon".

2. It looks from the Lulu evidence that Brian is attempting to 'fire sale' his remaining CB stock there.

Yours,

Christian

[Baron Alcyoneus]

Isn't Lulu more of a "print on demand" service?

[Christian H. Tobler]

Apparently, it's possible to use Lulu's shopping cart to sell books listed through Ingram. I was unaware of this until this all came up.

Yours,

Christian

[Galleron]

Apparently, it's possible to use Lulu's shopping cart to sell books listed through Ingram. I was unaware of this until this all came up.

Yours,

Christian

Indeed. My own Daily Life in Chaucer's England is available on Lulu. I don't think my publisher did anything more than not decline potential additional sales through that channel. I knew nothing about it before a few days ago.

[Effingham]

Indeed. My own Daily Life in Chaucer's England is available on Lulu. I don't think my publisher did anything more than not decline potential additional sales through that channel. I knew nothing about it before a few days ago.

Wait... what? YOU wrote that? I *love* that!

Great work, man. Thanks for doing it! It's fecking brilliant.


Effingham

[Galleron]

Indeed. My own Daily Life in Chaucer's England is available on Lulu. I don't think my publisher did anything more than not decline potential additional sales through that channel. I knew nothing about it before a few days ago.

Wait... what? YOU wrote that? I *love* that!

Great work, man. Thanks for doing it! It's fecking brilliant.


Effingham

Well, I co-wrote it. Jeffrey Forgeng did more of the text than I did. I did the line art.