A (dumb) point on pointing armor with points.

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A (dumb) point on pointing armor with points.

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So if I make a pair of couters, with the intent that they will be pointed to a foundation garment...

Do I put the holes on the inside (closer to the body) or the outside, or both?

14th c-ish rondel couters fwiw.
It looked better in my head....
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Re: A (dumb) point on pointing armor with points.

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I pointed mine to at the top, so 2 holes above my elbow on the rear side of my arm. If you aren't using any straps I'd suggest pointing top and bottom on the outside of the arm, but not all couters are alike. Hopefully someone else will jump in on this too.
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I don't point mine at all.

At the moment I wear just a floating elbow with no vambrace behind the shield (silly rule) and I have one that is connected to an open vambrace by a single leather strap on the inside.

Neither has any points. They just sit on the elbow. The strap around the inside of the elbow does a fine job of holding them in place.

They do need to have some depth for this to work, but elbows should have depth.

Bad me, no references here... I have seen some 14th c. brasses/effigies with laces on the front of the cop, but they appeared to be to secure the rondel.

15th c. German elbows were laced in the front, but a 100 year later example isn't any better than guesswork as any kind of "correctness" statement for the 14th c.

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wcallen wrote:Bad me, no references here... I have seen some 14th c. brasses/effigies with laces on the front of the cop, but they appeared to be to secure the rondel.

15th c. German elbows were laced in the front, but a 100 year later example isn't any better than guesswork as any kind of "correctness" statement for the 14th c.


These 2 ideas may well have been what I was rattling around in my brain pan. Looks like I'll skip the holes then.
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mattmaus wrote:
wcallen wrote:Bad me, no references here... I have seen some 14th c. brasses/effigies with laces on the front of the cop, but they appeared to be to secure the rondel.

15th c. German elbows were laced in the front, but a 100 year later example isn't any better than guesswork as any kind of "correctness" statement for the 14th c.


These 2 ideas may well have been what I was rattling around in my brain pan. Looks like I'll skip the holes then.


You can always add them later if you don't like how it works. Much more annoying to remove holes.

:)

But in general the 14th c. line doesn't seem to be covered in obvious laces.
That is why I put the tabs that secure the laces for my floating knees inside the cops.

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Re: A (dumb) point on pointing armor with points.

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mattmaus wrote:
wcallen wrote:Bad me, no references here... I have seen some 14th c. brasses/effigies with laces on the front of the cop, but they appeared to be to secure the rondel.

15th c. German elbows were laced in the front, but a 100 year later example isn't any better than guesswork as any kind of "correctness" statement for the 14th c.


These 2 ideas may well have been what I was rattling around in my brain pan. Looks like I'll skip the holes then.


You can always add them later if you don't like how it works. Much more annoying to remove holes.

:)

But in general the 14th c. line doesn't seem to be covered in obvious laces.
That is why I put the tabs that secure the laces for my floating knees inside the cops.

Wade
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