1394 - 'Jan III van Polanen

sulla123 · Post by **sulla123** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:31 am

Does any one know where I can find some larger pictures of this. http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilam ... 468647900/

update - looks like it is Jan III van Polanen not the II.

Baron Alcyoneus · Post by **Baron Alcyoneus** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:17 pm

While it wasn't the height of fashion for the date, it is still very nice! It is too bad he lost his arms&legs.

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:02 pm

Sulla, care to mention which details you're particularly pursuing? Might focus the research. Looks like the gentleman had a globose body defense such as a full-on late-fourteenth breastplate. Curious with the reinforced mail chausses as leg defense, to be sure!

Well, what's left looks like it might be reinforces over chausses...

Jonathon Janusz · Post by **Jonathon Janusz** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:58 pm

The decorative border at the bottom of the breastplate and the complimentary ones on the arms caught my attention. Interesting piece overall. Thanks for sharing!

sulla123 · Post by **sulla123** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:04 pm

Well there are several things that are interesting to me. One is the way the clothing and armor is layered. The decorations on the armor and clothing etc. Basicly its is very much like what I have been thinking abotu doing.

Any way it looks like he has a mid thigh length surcoat with angel type arms over his gambeson. Then over his surcaot he has his breastplate and then a skirt of mail. Also it looks like he also has a matching backplate. I also like the decoration on the armor. And the decoration on the surcoat are also interesting to me. Just over all an interesting piece.

sulla123 · Post by **sulla123** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:09 pm

I found out it is Jan the III and what town it is in. http://www.bredanassaustad.nl/en/sights ... an-polanen Maybe now I can find some larger photos.

Baron Alcyoneus · Post by **Baron Alcyoneus** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:26 pm

Full BPs are 1380-90? The Silver Altar of St James at Pistoia Cathedral shows them. Globose are more 1360-70s, I think. So grandpa wanted to wear his armor again.

Very nice find.

sulla123 · Post by **sulla123** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:38 pm

Oh by the way there are several photos from that same person on flicker. Like this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilam ... otostream/
It looks like he has a full chainmail shirt and then over that his surcoat and breastplate and the mailskirt. I believe these are all the images. http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Jan+II+van+Polanen

Gaston de Clermont · Post by **Gaston de Clermont** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:27 am

Awesome shots! So many amazing details in this piece- the texture of the fabric, and the decorative edging. I love the lines of the whole kit.

Galvyn Lockhart · Post by **Galvyn Lockhart** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:58 am

Gaston de Clermont wrote:Awesome shots! So many amazing details in this piece- the texture of the fabric, and the decorative edging. I love the lines of the whole kit.

Not only the pics of Jan III, but did you see the pics of the brasses of Johannes (1332) & Gerard (1398) van Heers? Amazing stuff! I think this photo account bears some more examination.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilam ... 468647900/

sulla123 · Post by **sulla123** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:10 am

Ya he has some interesting stuff on his photo account

sulla123 · Post by **sulla123** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:43 pm

I found another effigie with the same style setup. http://www.themcs.org/armour/knights/Ge ... %20150.JPG

von Tottenheim 1400

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