Historic Enterprises Armour pages REVAMPED!

Jeffrey Hedgecock · Post by **Jeffrey Hedgecock** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:19 am

Hi all,

In an effort to make it easier for you all to sort out "what goes with what" in the various pieces of armour we offer, I've completely overhauled our stock armour pages.

You can access them from here:

http://www.historicenterprises.com/haa/available.html

Or... you can go in the front door to see all of our offerings at:

http://www.historicenterprises.com

We're doing LOTS of spring steel armour now, and offer anything and everything we can make in HEAT TREATED 1050 SPRING STEEL!

I'm working on the custom orders, and Greg is CRANKIN' on the stock stuff, so turnaround time is low on simple pieces, like our standard/stock items. We're also finishing up the large batch of 1380's limbs that we couldn't get done in time for Pennsic, so those are available.

We hope to hear from you!

Just for fun, here's a pic of my new armour... finished!

[img]http://www.historicenterprises.com/haa/imgs/available/milanese.jpg[/img]

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Cheers,

Jeffrey Hedgecock,
Armourer, Historic Arms & Armour
http://www.historicenterprises.com
Maitre of The Red Company-1471
http://www.theredcompany-1471.org

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:15 am

Kick ass Jeff! Now I know about what I am looking to pay for spring from you guys

. Must start saving.

Flonzy

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Wolf · Post by **Wolf** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:21 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by flonzy:
Kick ass Jeff! Now I know about what I am looking to pay for spring from you guys

. Must start saving.

Flonzy

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ahhhhhhhhhh sweet!!!!!! i'll be saving as well.

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Wolf
"Any armour worth doing, is worth doing historically!!"

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Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:23 am

Absolutely stunning work, Jeff!

Steve

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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.

James C · Post by **James C** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:52 am

I'm saving my pennies as fast as I possibly can. Very nice armour.

Hopefully I can create works that nice one day.

Durame · Post by **Durame** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:13 am

hi!

ive seen your work and your site!

its simpli stunning!

i dlike to ask, why spring steel? what qualities does it have compare to mild or ss?
(ive only worked in mild so far)

thanks
Durame

Durame · Post by **Durame** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:35 am

oups.... just read whats on your site..

so i know a bit more abour spring now..

but any other info about it woulb be appreciated if theres more to know

thanks

Durame

Mad Matt · Post by **Mad Matt** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:38 am

I'm sure you do have it but have you got documentation for the following? If so could you share your source? Not that I doubt you just that I haven't seen it and want to.

http://www.historicenterprises.com/haa/cuisse01.html

http://www.historicenterprises.com/haa/brigandinegorget.html

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Mad Matt's Armory

Jeffrey Hedgecock · Post by **Jeffrey Hedgecock** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:37 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mad Matt:
I'm sure you do have it but have you got documentation for the following? If so could you share your source? Not that I doubt you just that I haven't seen it and want to.

http://www.historicenterprises.com/haa/cuisse01.html

http://www.historicenterprises.com/haa/brigandinegorget.html

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read the first paragraph of the 1380-90 cuisses page:

http://www.historicenterprises.com/haa/1380cuisses.html

The only examples we're currently basing our 14th c plate armour on are the ones in Churburg and Chartres. The gorget is a speculation based on armour from Wisby.

Thanks for the great comments and interest, folks! Now if we can just sell a bunch of it!

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Cheers,

Jeffrey Hedgecock,
Armourer, Historic Arms & Armour
http://www.historicenterprises.com
Maitre of The Red Company-1471
http://www.theredcompany-1471.org

sandman · Post by **sandman** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 10:49 pm

Ack! Frames!

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:54 am

I've heard people complain about frames in the past. Why do some people not like frames? I've never had a problem with them.

Steve

sandman · Post by **sandman** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:21 am

Ah frames, its just something else to clutter up the page - you have that nice bar in the middle of your page. I have found that anything you want to do with frames, could be done much better using a good table. Frames are also the easiest way to go about building a page, so it makes it look a little less professional - at least in my opinion. Also with a page that is not in frames, the client/customer can bookmark any page they want and search engines can search your page better. I know that google goes through and uses the first text on your page for their search, and when you are using frames, there usually isnt any text - as it is loading up the main frame page. The main frame page is another page that has to load up for the site (granted only a k or so but still its something). But in the end it all comes down to personal preference - at least we arent seeing full flash sites selling armor - not like that wouldnt be cool, but a whole 'nother debate. (anyone need flash?

Sandman

Thomas H · Post by **Thomas H** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:35 pm

jeff you have some of the nicest looking armour on the web. when i make enough from my armour i'm getting a suit off of you.

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Wolfesco · Post by **Wolfesco** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:18 pm

Great armor Jeff. I also like the armor stand. Do you make them for sale?

Steve

Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:03 pm

Jeffery, I have a 47" chest and 39" waist,do you think the size large churburg breastplate will fit ok? or do I need to go with the custom sizing? Thanks, Otto

Mad Matt · Post by **Mad Matt** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:33 am

Thanks Jeffrey I haven't seen that leg harness yet. I missed that page on your site too.

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Mad Matt's Armory

Jeffrey Hedgecock · Post by **Jeffrey Hedgecock** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:07 pm

Matt,

The legs are in Churburg and are shown in the re-issue of the catalog with Scalini's addendum. The best pictures are in Boccia and Coelho's seminal work "L'Arte del Armatura in Italia", which is a very rare and usually phenomenally expensive book from the late 1960's.

I had posted some scans of the pics over on Arador, but that site is down currently. When it comes back up you might want to take a look.

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Cheers,

Jeffrey Hedgecock,
Armourer, Historic Arms & Armour
http://www.historicenterprises.com
Maitre of The Red Company-1471
http://www.theredcompany-1471.org

Brian W. Rainey · Post by **Brian W. Rainey** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:58 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jeffrey Hedgecock:
The best pictures are in Boccia and Coelho's seminal work "L'Arte del Armatura in Italia", which is a very rare and usually phenomenally expensive book from the late 1960's.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Matt,

If you get the chance to pick up that book... do it!

I was recently fortunate enough to acquire a signed copy of L'arte! The first 100 copies were unnumbered and signed by both authors. The rest were numbered 101-1700, unsigned.

I would give an appendage to know the path this book has traveled in it's lifetime.

Jeff is right, it is phenominally difficult to find, as of late. I was searching for an affordable copy for over two years and came by the nicest (and cheapest) copy quite by accident.

Some of the interior pictures and accompanying text are extremely valuable, in my opinion. All pictures are superb, considering the standards of the late 60's.

Once I get the time... after I move... I am hoping to put a detailed and accurate review of this fabulous work on my website.

Jeffrey Hedgecock · Post by **Jeffrey Hedgecock** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:35 am

Otto,

I'll check out the sizing on the breastplate and get back to you. Really crazy right now, demolishing our business building this week and there's been much to do.

Brian- I was lucky enough to get my copy of "L'Arte" in '91 and got one of those first 100. Didn't realize how cool it was till several years later. Go figure. I was looking for the Della Grazie book at the time, but the bookseller pulled the other one by mistake. What a lucky break.

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Cheers,

Jeffrey Hedgecock,
Armourer, Historic Arms & Armour
http://www.historicenterprises.com
Maitre of The Red Company-1471
http://www.theredcompany-1471.org

Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:10 am

Thanks Jeffery, take your time,I know good things come to those who wait! Good luck with the demolition and moving process,be carefull and DONT strain your hammer arm LOL..Otto

Chuck Davis · Post by **Chuck Davis** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:05 am

Dang it Jeff! I was going to do something very similar to your page! You beat me to it.

Very nice setup. I like that you have pictures of every piece that you do.

I'll be doing something similar over this winter for my 14th century armour.
-Cad