Does anyone know of any sources for mace heads? I'm looking for 12th-13th century, flanged or knobbed, iron or brass/bronze. I'd like to find something fairly inexpensive (hence heads only).
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Mace heads?
Can you do something like this?
[img]http://www.manningimperial.com/Weaponry/islamic-haf.jpg[/img]
the one on the left. (Image from Manning Imperial)
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[img]http://www.manningimperial.com/Weaponry/islamic-haf.jpg[/img]
the one on the left. (Image from Manning Imperial)
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I can do it in iron for you.
I know the guy at manning imperial. He gets these cast to his moulds. Can't compete with that in bronze.
If that is exactly the style you want then buying from him is a good bet.
I can vouch for his quality...though he is a little slow sometimes (snowed under with work).
What sort of budget did you have in mind? (I don't recall Craig's mace heads being that pricey).
Sasha
I know the guy at manning imperial. He gets these cast to his moulds. Can't compete with that in bronze.
If that is exactly the style you want then buying from him is a good bet.
I can vouch for his quality...though he is a little slow sometimes (snowed under with work).
What sort of budget did you have in mind? (I don't recall Craig's mace heads being that pricey).
Sasha
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I just checked Craig's site.
He is charging $90 Australian for this mace in bronze or $60 in aluminium (yuk!).
That is about $45US for the bronze. I do not think you are going to do much better then that!
I would charge you more for the iron one. Mind you mine are hand crafted rather then cast.
Sasha
If it is any help. I just shipped you a pic of one of my later period flange maces.
He is charging $90 Australian for this mace in bronze or $60 in aluminium (yuk!).
That is about $45US for the bronze. I do not think you are going to do much better then that!
I would charge you more for the iron one. Mind you mine are hand crafted rather then cast.
Sasha
If it is any help. I just shipped you a pic of one of my later period flange maces.
Hmmm...$45 US sounds pretty good. It hadn't crossed my mind that cast pieces would be cheaper than forged/welded, but it makes sense. I guess I'll go with bronze/brass (assuming it's cheaper).
Does anyone know of any suppliers in the US? no offence to you Australians
, I just prefer to have my stuff travel as little as possible.
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Does anyone know of any suppliers in the US? no offence to you Australians
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Saverio
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by john:
<B>someone want to post a link to the Australian site?
GtY</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://manningimperial.com/
Aussies rock!
ive been dealing with alot of them lately (hey ya Eggie) and i cant think of one remotely negative thing to say about any of the craftsman down that way. I hate to admit it out loud but the exchange rate sucks for them but is definitely in our (US) favor, the rate amounts to about 50% off of thier prices. Ive worked with Craig a little but plan to do more with him soon.
he also has a great deal on leather lamallar lames (500 lames for $80) IMO
i am really lusting over his pointed sheild bosses ans i think his sword prices are good (i am told by one of the other Aussies i correspond with frequently that he sells just the blades for a VERY decent price also but they arent posted on the site)
shipping isnt as bad as you think, it is a a little slow but i think you still come out ahead
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<B>someone want to post a link to the Australian site?
GtY</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://manningimperial.com/
Aussies rock!
ive been dealing with alot of them lately (hey ya Eggie) and i cant think of one remotely negative thing to say about any of the craftsman down that way. I hate to admit it out loud but the exchange rate sucks for them but is definitely in our (US) favor, the rate amounts to about 50% off of thier prices. Ive worked with Craig a little but plan to do more with him soon.
he also has a great deal on leather lamallar lames (500 lames for $80) IMO
i am really lusting over his pointed sheild bosses ans i think his sword prices are good (i am told by one of the other Aussies i correspond with frequently that he sells just the blades for a VERY decent price also but they arent posted on the site)
shipping isnt as bad as you think, it is a a little slow but i think you still come out ahead
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HálvgrÃmr Aðálraðarson
[This message has been edited by Halvgrim (edited 04-11-2002).]
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<B>Sasha:
I'll</B> buy one in iron from you.
E-mail me with the details.
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I'll</B> buy one in iron from you.
E-mail me with the details.
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You have Nicolle's western euro green book?
Look on page 513, for Hungary, and particularly at 797a and 797c... now, I don't know *where* he gets that these are bronze... I'm sure one or two in bronze existed.. but the ones I'm familiar with are just plain old iron. (of the two, 797a is the one I'm more used to seeing in iron). Should weigh about a pound and accept a 3/4 or 1-inch haft, I'm guessing -- the haft will taper, and I'll plan on sliding it down the slightly skinnier end...
sound doable? Also pp 520-23. There's actually a number of plain old iron or nothing-fancy steel hafted weapon heads I'd like to commission, given the right price-vs-time-vs-smith-has-fun-quotient.
I could afford to buy my wife one of your damascus pieces... but I'm not sure I could afford all the chocolate required for her to forgive me for doing so...::grin::
Look on page 513, for Hungary, and particularly at 797a and 797c... now, I don't know *where* he gets that these are bronze... I'm sure one or two in bronze existed.. but the ones I'm familiar with are just plain old iron. (of the two, 797a is the one I'm more used to seeing in iron). Should weigh about a pound and accept a 3/4 or 1-inch haft, I'm guessing -- the haft will taper, and I'll plan on sliding it down the slightly skinnier end...
sound doable? Also pp 520-23. There's actually a number of plain old iron or nothing-fancy steel hafted weapon heads I'd like to commission, given the right price-vs-time-vs-smith-has-fun-quotient.
I could afford to buy my wife one of your damascus pieces... but I'm not sure I could afford all the chocolate required for her to forgive me for doing so...::grin::
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Sorry, but I no longer have the big green boojk of fun and mayhem.
It evaporated about two moves ago.(although i think my copy was actually blue covered).
If you want to scan in and e-mail me the pics you want to talk about....
I will soon be posting pics of the in-stock maces, as well as the one being offered to Templar Bob.
The brass cast maces are based on historically accurate pieces and are also inferred from historical writing. We know they mass cast some blunt weapon heads...but not much (or not anything) survives as an example.
Given that Craig normally builds for the metal weapons scene in australia and the group he primarily plays with has upper-mass restrictions on mace heads....you can see how he started by casting them form aluminium. I think using the same mould as a base for the brass mace was an outgrowth of this.
Quite an ingeneous one, actually.
Sasha
It evaporated about two moves ago.(although i think my copy was actually blue covered).
If you want to scan in and e-mail me the pics you want to talk about....
I will soon be posting pics of the in-stock maces, as well as the one being offered to Templar Bob.
The brass cast maces are based on historically accurate pieces and are also inferred from historical writing. We know they mass cast some blunt weapon heads...but not much (or not anything) survives as an example.
Given that Craig normally builds for the metal weapons scene in australia and the group he primarily plays with has upper-mass restrictions on mace heads....you can see how he started by casting them form aluminium. I think using the same mould as a base for the brass mace was an outgrowth of this.
Quite an ingeneous one, actually.
Sasha
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I got the pics.
Pretties.....
There are some very cute little axes in there.
I just need to know if you want sqaured or conical spikes for the #1 or #5 mace head?
By the way, T bob....I was "playing" with your not quite completed mace....it is...errr...authoratitive!
Mind you, I fitted it to one of my spare handles, which has a wire-wound grip and ball-spike. Found it to be just the right degree of counterweight. Flows nicely.
Did you want it bright, brushed or blued? I think it would look nifty blued with the bit of brass on it....Up to you.
Sasha
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Pretties.....
There are some very cute little axes in there.
I just need to know if you want sqaured or conical spikes for the #1 or #5 mace head?
By the way, T bob....I was "playing" with your not quite completed mace....it is...errr...authoratitive!
Mind you, I fitted it to one of my spare handles, which has a wire-wound grip and ball-spike. Found it to be just the right degree of counterweight. Flows nicely.
Did you want it bright, brushed or blued? I think it would look nifty blued with the bit of brass on it....Up to you.
Sasha
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Sasha:
Blued and brass would be pretty kick-butt looking. Please send an e-mail to my home address to let me know details for payment in U. S. dollars..
Could you also send pictures?
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Remember: In Living History/Reinactment, Real Life is the Great Leveler of Man.</B>
Blued and brass would be pretty kick-butt looking. Please send an e-mail to my home address to let me know details for payment in U. S. dollars..
Could you also send pictures?
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Squared... the originals are kind of "worn down pyramids"
Don't you like those light axes? I'm a big fan of the fokosbalta and fokosbard, though I've always wanted to try out a csakanybalta (substitute hooking spike for knob) and that kettofokos. That sphere, btw, is important in that design... you can smash through a helmet, but it makes a big enough hole that you can always remove it afterwards...
Don't you like those light axes? I'm a big fan of the fokosbalta and fokosbard, though I've always wanted to try out a csakanybalta (substitute hooking spike for knob) and that kettofokos. That sphere, btw, is important in that design... you can smash through a helmet, but it makes a big enough hole that you can always remove it afterwards...
