Klappsvisier Resources

This forum is designed to help us spread the knowledge of armouring.
Post Reply
Pheylin Quinn
Archive Member
Posts: 1571
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2001 2:01 am
Location: Wauconda, IL
Contact:

Klappsvisier Resources

Post by Pheylin Quinn »

I am searching in vain for actual examples of a bulbous Klappsvisier.

I have found many reproductions (Master Cad, Master Geoffrey, Techiniques, etc), however I am coming up short on actual documentation and photos of period examples.

I plan on creating a close reproduction to an original in September, if I can find one to my liking. If anyone has resources for period examples, please pass them on.

I am hoping to focus on a Northern Italian example however, I have found these to be even more elusive than their German counterparts.

Also, has anyone used Brian P's visor hinge reproductions? I am curious as to the applications that these have been used for. And would be interested in seeing an actual application.

Thank you,

------------------
Pheylin Quinn

[This message has been edited by Pheylin Quinn (edited 08-07-2001).]
Erik Schmidt
Archive Member
Posts: 1178
Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:01 am
Location: Australia

Post by Erik Schmidt »

Hi Pheylin,
I was pulling my hair out over the same problem not so long ago. The museums guard their collections very well and those who do pay the US$300-$1500 for the books which contain pictures are understandably not going to share them easily.
There are different shapes of Klappenvisir and judging from the one Cad made, you are not referring to the really bulbous types, but more flatly rounded.
There are a few around, a couple of them in Swiss museums.
I have managed to obtain a single picture from kind people on the archive when I was looking for extant hinges and vervelles on helms.
I'll send you a copy, but I don't know the year, provenance or source museum, but it's a pic.

Erik
Patrick Thaden
Archive Member
Posts: 643
Joined: Thu May 24, 2001 1:01 am
Location: Denton TX, USA
Contact:

Post by Patrick Thaden »

I have only been able to locate definate info on two of the globular or bulbous type clapvisors one was in the germanishes museum in Nurenberg and the other was in the... sorry don't have it off the top of my head I will find it though(swiss museum) The nurenberg I have several photos of though the swiss only a photo copy (unfortunatly it wasn't even on display). I have heard there are others but I have never seen any pictures of them. The nurenberg ex. didn't have a hinge left and the swiss had a long vertical slot crossed by two horizontal ones. I will see if I can find a scanner.

------------------
Patrick Thaden
Thaden Armory
http://www.thadenarmory.com
Arland
Archive Member
Posts: 826
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2000 1:01 am
Location: Colorado Springs, CO

Post by Arland »

If you look in the Osprey books on the later German Armies they go into detail in the back of the back of the book. They mention several relief carvings, sculptures and what not. Not to mention where they are. I’ll try and find out what my son did with my book and post some of that for you.

------------------
Baron Arland the Bastard
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/rivetedmaille
Post Reply