Best unbelted fighters in your kingdoms?

hjalmr · Post by **hjalmr** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:53 pm

Kith the Silent wrote:
hjalmr wrote:Sasha St Martin?

Is this the Sasha that I generally see with Darkmoon?

Yes it is

Then I would agree with this pick for The Middle Kingdom. :mrgreen:

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:52 am

You've been fighting since you were 2, your highness? No wonder you're a force!

broinnfinn wrote:
Adriano wrote:Not to blow my own horn, but when I'm in practice, I'd say I rank solidly in the top, oh, 500, here in Meridies.

(Well, I'm probably one of the senior Meridian unbelteds, after 23 years...)

Got you beat. 24 this fall.

Broinnfinn

Ruthardis · Post by **Ruthardis** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:54 am

sahbah.

Oh and take a look at Capitain Rodrigo De Vargas, pole weapons.

Snaebjorn Hakonarson · Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:12 am

Jean Paul. If the Wolfgang you know lives in the Shire of Coppertree in Aethelmearc then its the same one. And sorry but we're keeping this one! He's to good to send back down there and let you use him against us!

Bjorn Swiftaxe

broinnfinn · Post by **broinnfinn** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:51 am

[quote="Morgan"]You've been fighting since you were 2, your highness? No wonder you're a force!

Oh, believe me, I WISH. Unfortunately, as of this year, I will be repeating birthdays. :wink:

Thirty-nine was a good year, I think I will stay there...

Broinnfinn

Greenshield · Post by **Greenshield** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:34 pm

broinnfinn wrote:
Adriano wrote:Not to blow my own horn, but when I'm in practice, I'd say I rank solidly in the top, oh, 500, here in Meridies.

(Well, I'm probably one of the senior Meridian unbelteds, after 23 years...)

Got you beat. 24 this fall.

Broinnfinn

That may be true Bri, but your at least in the top 300, so you have something over him

Cam

gintaras · Post by **gintaras** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:02 pm

Kith the Silent wrote:
DarkApprentice wrote:Don't forget Sabah.

He is from the Mid Realm too, no?

DA

You're correct ( As if i could forget Sabah! )

Who is now in the Midlands (Rockford) I might add.

gintaras · Post by **gintaras** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:04 pm

I have to add Captain Aileen Fitzwilliam.

Gintaras the Biased

Stephanofd · Post by **Stephanofd** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:32 pm

broinnfinn wrote:
Morgan wrote:Oh, believe me, I WISH. Unfortunately, as of this year, I will be repeating birthdays.

Thirty-nine was a good year, I think I will stay there...

Broinnfinn

Oh no your not. I had to cross that line, and I am not going to let you stay over there. Your coming to the "forties" if I have to drag you.

Stephan
Another "senior" fighter at 23 years and counting.

Kith the Silent · Post by **Kith the Silent** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:33 pm

Ruthardis wrote:sahbah.

Oh and take a look at Capitain Rodrigo De Vargas, pole weapons.

Vargas is a close friend..and i dont want to seem biased

But since you all put him out there, then Yeah him too

sarnac · Post by **sarnac** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:30 pm

Vitus wrote:SASCHA ST. MARTIN
Northern Indiana- Midrealm

I dont know about that.... Lothair Glenlogan From Darkyard would give him a run for his money.....he may be even better technically....

Colète · Post by **Colète** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:24 am

Jean Paul de Sens wrote:
Bjorn, if that's Wolfgang *I* know, he's Ansteorran, you're just getting him on loan He's been telling us lots of great things about the group he's been working with....

And yah, he's a major handful for righties too

Jean Paul

Hummmm, would this be the same one who was a newbie with Duke Michael of Mammothshire? Has an Ansteorran star tattoo on his wrist? If I'm right, please send him my well wishes and a request to email me. My Yahoo account fizzled out and I lost his addy.

~Colete (He knows me as "Vanora")

Snaebjorn Hakonarson · Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:33 am

I'm he is the same one I will tell him to email you. I'll be getting beat by him tomorrow at the tourney at Axes & Ales VI. I will see though. I'll probably have to write down names so I'll know who I'm supposed to ask him about! *L*

Bjorn Swiftaxe

broinnfinn · Post by **broinnfinn** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:33 am

greenshield wrote:That may be true Bri, but your at least in the top 300, so you have something over him

Cam

Ummm. Thanks. I think.

Bri.

Sascha St. Martin · Post by **Sascha St. Martin** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:28 pm

I would have to say that Cpt. Tom Tinntinnabulum is certainly amongst the best in the Midrealm. His skill with a glaive is something to behold.

Sascha St. Martin, Esquire
House Darkmoon

Colète · Post by **Colète** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:44 pm

Bjorn Swiftaxe wrote:I'm he is the same one I will tell him to email you. I'll be getting beat by him tomorrow at the tourney at Axes & Ales VI. I will see though. I'll probably have to write down names so I'll know who I'm supposed to ask him about! *L*

Bjorn Swiftaxe

Thanks man! He's a pretty cool character. We met at a local fighter practice while I was in Army telecom school in Agusta, GA. I looked down on his wrist, saw the Ansteorran tat, then showed him the one I have on my shoulder. Turns out he ran with my crowd of friends maaaaaaaaaaany years ago. He had alot of cool tales to tell.

~Colete/Vanora

George fH · Post by **George fH** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:05 am

Best Unbelts of Drachenwald, on my list would be

Viscount Brendon the Tired
Count Marcus Eisenwald
Grimr from Arnimetsee

and some of the Frankmark guys

Eorl Giles
Maximillian
Baron Elazar
Bjorn

Stacy Elliott · Post by **Stacy Elliott** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:02 am

George,

You forgot to include yourself.... I seem to remember the schoolings you give me at St Mats and Niebulungen each year...

Giles

Chazz · Post by **Chazz** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:40 pm

In Atenveldt I'd say the top five non belts (in my opinion):

1. Edward Gostomski
2. Cosimo Orsini
3. Walrick Nightwalker
4. Isabelle d' Avallon
5. Donnegal Buchannon
( Bjorn Husqvartir would be my#6)

Chazz
(Sir Tighearnain Blackwater of Mightrinwood- Atenveldt)

Katherined'Anjou · Post by **Katherined'Anjou** » Fri May 07, 2004 12:13 pm

I would have to add one unbelted fighter to this list......

Master Roland :wink:

I agree with Logan: Sinclair and Marc. But Jonathan Blackbow, I guess He just doesnt show me "best" without Being THICK.

:evil:

But I have to say, I always think my hubby is best......

:twisted:

Dark Victory · Post by **Dark Victory** » Fri May 07, 2004 12:27 pm

I don't have a belt yet, but Dark Apprentice says he will show me how to make one...working with leather is fun!

Since I haven't gotten a belt yet, I'm naming myself as the best!!! :twisted:

Katherined'Anjou · Post by **Katherined'Anjou** » Fri May 07, 2004 1:35 pm

I need to add one more to this list, I would have to say: Master Bryce.

But I guess I am partial to Atlantian fighters.

:twisted:

Seawolf · Post by **Seawolf** » Fri May 07, 2004 2:12 pm

What about AnTir?

Jean Paul de Sens · Post by **Jean Paul de Sens** » Fri May 07, 2004 5:39 pm

Chazz wrote:In Atenveldt I'd say the top five non belts (in my opinion):

1. Edward Gostomski
2. Cosimo Orsini
3. Walrick Nightwalker
4. Isabelle d' Avallon
5. Donnegal Buchannon
( Bjorn Husqvartir would be my#6)

Chazz
(Sir Tighearnain Blackwater of Mightrinwood- Atenveldt)

Chazz, is this:

http://www.tomeistudios.com/pictures/outld39.html
http://www.tomeistudios.com/pictures/outld40.html

Edward?

If so, then I definitely agree with you. Fought against him and watched him, and he was SMOKIN people... he was wicked...

JP

dukelogan · Post by **dukelogan** » Fri May 07, 2004 8:43 pm

ive not had a problem with jonathans acknowledgment level. i think he takes blows at the upper half but certainly not out of the range of reasonable. he is, however, an irritating fighter. his defense is stout and his power is commendable. he is 6' 29" (or somewhere in the stratosphere) is capable with a few weapons, is quick, and talks way way too much (i hate someone talking to me when we fight) :evil:

. while all of those things tend to make him a frustrating, irritating, fighter they certainly dont indicate an acknowledgement problem.

perhaps youve had a different, direct, experience in your fights against him. if so, i dont think its the norm. roland is probably in the top 15. i just didnt get to see him that often when i was active. but i bet youre right. he certainly showed some ability and talent when i saw him.

regards
logan

Katherined'Anjou wrote:I would have to add one unbelted fighter to this list......

Master Roland

I agree with Logan: Sinclair and Marc. But Jonathan Blackbow, I guess He just doesnt show me "best" without Being THICK.

But I have to say, I always think my hubby is best......

Kith the Silent · Post by **Kith the Silent** » Sat May 08, 2004 11:14 pm

I remember who else i forgot from the midrealm..Josclyn (sp) from Darkyard, Pentamere region. She without a doubt throws some fine stick.

I wouldnt not be surprised in the least if she was belted sometime soon.

Rev. George · Post by **Rev. George** » Sun May 09, 2004 1:46 am

Tinntinnabulum

Someone been singing Latinate christmas carols of late? that's the 3rd line of "jingle bells" in latin...

-+G[/i]

Katherined'Anjou · Post by **Katherined'Anjou** » Sun May 09, 2004 4:29 pm

Duke Logan:

So far I have heard and seen the fights of Roland, he is as far better than top 15. But to each's own opinion.
Since I don't heavy fight:

ive not had a problem with jonathans acknowledgment level. i think he takes blows at the upper half but certainly not out of the range of reasonable. he is, however, an irritating fighter. his defense is stout and his power is commendable. he is 6' 29" (or somewhere in the stratosphere) is capable with a few weapons, is quick, and talks way way too much (i hate someone talking to me when we fight) . while all of those things tend to make him a frustrating, irritating, fighter they certainly dont indicate an acknowledgement problem.

perhaps youve had a different, direct, experience in your fights against him. if so, i dont think its the norm. roland is probably in the top 15. i just didnt get to see him that often when i was active. but i bet youre right. he certainly showed some ability and talent when i saw him.

regards
logan

And merely watch from the sideline, and sometimes the MOL table. I see and hear from all the fighters about Jonathan. Yeah, the talking "SHIT"
has to be hard, when you are trying to beat his ass. But his Irrirtation is just NOT on the field, It is off the field as well. With his "I-know-it-all" attitude.

Someday, maybe he will change. Since, change begins with the individual.

K

Bartok · Post by **Bartok** » Sun May 09, 2004 5:44 pm

East Kingdom:

Yesungge Altan

He's been here in Ruantalan for three years now, originally he's a huscarl from Calontir... But he's ours now

For those who came to town last weekend, he was the mongol.

Bartok

dukelogan · Post by **dukelogan** » Sun May 09, 2004 7:10 pm

not sure how one can be better than the top 15 since that would include the number one slot as well.

hopefully ill get some video of him soon as i would like to see how hes doing. rolands character both on and off the field is to be applauded.

regards
logan

Katherined'Anjou wrote:Duke Logan:

So far I have heard and seen the fights of Roland, he is as far better than top 15. But to each's own opinion.
Since I don't heavy fight:

ive not had a problem with jonathans acknowledgment level. i think he takes blows at the upper half but certainly not out of the range of reasonable. he is, however, an irritating fighter. his defense is stout and his power is commendable. he is 6' 29" (or somewhere in the stratosphere) is capable with a few weapons, is quick, and talks way way too much (i hate someone talking to me when we fight) . while all of those things tend to make him a frustrating, irritating, fighter they certainly dont indicate an acknowledgement problem.

perhaps youve had a different, direct, experience in your fights against him. if so, i dont think its the norm. roland is probably in the top 15. i just didnt get to see him that often when i was active. but i bet youre right. he certainly showed some ability and talent when i saw him.

regards
logan

And merely watch from the sideline, and sometimes the MOL table. I see and hear from all the fighters about Jonathan. Yeah, the talking "SHIT"
has to be hard, when you are trying to beat his ass. But his Irrirtation is just NOT on the field, It is off the field as well. With his "I-know-it-all" attitude.

Someday, maybe he will change. Since, change begins with the individual.

K

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Sun May 09, 2004 8:13 pm

I think what someone means when they say "he's better than top 15" is that they believe that it's a bit of an underestimation... IE, 11-15 are DEFFINATELY out of his league, he's more like top 10 or top 5. I mean if it's so great to be top 15 and there isn't any BETTER than top 15, then hell, top 50,000 is the same, eh?

Why, I bet every SCA fighter who frequents this board is in the top 50,000!

dukelogan · Post by **dukelogan** » Sun May 09, 2004 8:26 pm

yeah i got what she meant to say. however, what she did say was that he was better than the top 15. that, clearly, is not what she intended to convey. its no biggie, hence my emoticon smiley face.

speaking of emoticons (i do hate them, but im forced to used them. its like a sick calling) how come we dont have one with a tongue sticking out? i think we need one of those.

regards
logan

Morgan wrote:I think what someone means when they say "he's better than top 15" is that they believe that it's a bit of an underestimation... IE, 11-15 are DEFFINATELY out of his league, he's more like top 10 or top 5. I mean if it's so great to be top 15 and there isn't any BETTER than top 15, then hell, top 50,000 is the same, eh? Why, I bet every SCA fighter who frequents this board is in the top 50,000!

Gaston de Vieuxchamps · Sun May 09, 2004 10:16 pm

dukelogan wrote:speaking of emoticons (i do hate them, but im forced to used them. its like a sick calling) how come we dont have one with a tongue sticking out? i think we need one of those.

regards
logan

We do, sort of. This one

is supposed to be tongue sticking out (rasberry) but it doesn't really look right.

ColinG · Post by **ColinG** » Mon May 10, 2004 8:04 am

dukelogan wrote:without a doubt the best unbelted fighter in atlantia is sinclair. there are several others that are doing well, fighting-wise, in my opinion:

dammuth
bryan killian
jonathan blackbow
shay
helmut
marc
and a few others (but that wasnt the question so ill stop here)

regards
logan

I'd take Shay and Helmet off that list and put BdeB near the top but otherwise agree with your assessment. I also see Roland in the top ten of "unbelted fighters" but would rank him higher then some mentioned above due to intangibles. But then that wasn't the question was it. We were talking just fighting skill. Not knightly qualities.

Colin G

dukelogan · Post by **dukelogan** » Mon May 10, 2004 8:38 am

last time i saw helmut he was doing very well. bryce certainly has potential but still has some bad habits that he needs to overcome. his on side attack is not a threat and that, i feel, limits his effectiveness. his off side attack his constant and is a threat. too much repetition in his shots. needs to learn some good fakes and feints. speed is above average offensively, defensively it is average. good field sense and one of the best dressed out there! i would give shay 6 out of 10 against him though. but he should be on the list i just havent seen him fight in a while. the same with roland. i hope to see them both at pennsic so that i can be current with my impressions.

regards
logan

ColinG wrote:
dukelogan wrote:without a doubt the best unbelted fighter in atlantia is sinclair. there are several others that are doing well, fighting-wise, in my opinion:

dammuth
bryan killian
jonathan blackbow
shay
helmut
marc
and a few others (but that wasnt the question so ill stop here)

regards
logan

I'd take Shay and Helmet off that list and put BdeB near the top but otherwise agree with your assessment. I also see Roland in the top ten of "unbelted fighters" but would rank him higher then some mentioned above due to intangibles. But then that wasn't the question was it. We were talking just fighting skill. Not knightly qualities.

Colin G

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